Statement of the Eight Witnesses - Revision history

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	{{:Question: Regarding the gold plates, did Martin Harris claim that "the eight witnesses never saw them and hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but they were persuaded to do it"?}}		{{:Question: Regarding the gold plates, did Martin Harris claim that "the eight witnesses never saw them and hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but they were persuaded to do it"?}}
	~~{{:Richard Anderson: All eleven Book of Mormon witnesses publicly reaffirmed their testimony as printed}}~~
	{{:Question: How do critics of the Church attempt to dismiss the literal experience of the Eight Witnesses of the Book of Mormon?}}		{{:Question: How do critics of the Church attempt to dismiss the literal experience of the Eight Witnesses of the Book of Mormon?}}
	{{:Lucy Mack Smith: "Here it was that those 8 witnesses recorded in the Book of Mormon looked upon the plates and handled them of which they bear witness"}}		{{:Lucy Mack Smith: "Here it was that those 8 witnesses recorded in the Book of Mormon looked upon the plates and handled them of which they bear witness"}}
	~~{{:William Owen (skeptical account): "Ten persons say they have seen them and hefted them, three declare that an angel of God appeared to them and showed them to them"}}~~
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	{{:Question: Regarding the gold plates, did Martin Harris claim that "the eight witnesses never saw them and hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but they were persuaded to do it"?}}		{{:Question: Regarding the gold plates, did Martin Harris claim that "the eight witnesses never saw them and hesitated to sign that instrument for that reason, but they were persuaded to do it"?}}
			{{:Richard Anderson: All eleven Book of Mormon witnesses publicly reaffirmed their testimony as printed}}
			{{:Question: How do critics of the Church attempt to dismiss the literal experience of the Eight Witnesses of the Book of Mormon?}}
			{{:Lucy Mack Smith: "Here it was that those 8 witnesses recorded in the Book of Mormon looked upon the plates and handled them of which they bear witness"}}
			{{:William Owen (skeptical account): "Ten persons say they have seen them and hefted them, three declare that an angel of God appeared to them and showed them to them"}}
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			\|author=Richard Lloyd Anderson
			\|title=Attempts to Redefine the Experience of the Eight Witnesses
			\|publication=Journal of Book of Mormon Studies
			\|vol=14
			\|num=1
			\|date=205
			\|summary=An angel showed the Book of Mormon plates to the Three Witnesses, who heard God's voice declare the translation correct.* But the Eight Witnesses report handling the plates under natural circumstances, describing color, substantial weight, individual leaves with engraved writings, and careful craftsmanship throughout. Critics have reacted variously to such physical language. Some see the Eight Witnesses as participants in a fraud. But their lives do not fit that mold, since all suffered in the severe persecutions of early Mormonism and not one reversed his written testimony. Other critics acknowledge sincerity and suppose Joseph Smith constructed an imitation. But the Eight Witnesses were tradesmen and farmers who worked with materials and would recognize a clumsy counterfeit. More recent skeptics advance a double theory: (1) that at various times Joseph Smith allowed the eight men to lift but not see a heavy covered object; (2) that these men testified of seeing plates because of a vision induced by enthusiasm or mind control. This theory is showcased by arbitrary interpretation of very few documents. This article discusses sources that have been misused in attempts to reverse the Eight Witnesses' statement about their physical contact with the ancient record.
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