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RogerNicholson: /* The trip to Salem was apparently "venture of their own design" */

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	===The trip to Salem was apparently "venture of their own design"===		===The trip to Salem was apparently a "venture of their own design"===

	The trip to Salem was apparently "a venture of their own design, not one of divine direction."<ref>Joseph Fielding McConkie, Craig J. Ostler, ''Revelations of the Restoration'' (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 2000), p. 896.</ref> Two weeks after receiving the revelation recorded in D&C 111, Joseph wrote the following letter to his wife Emma from Salem.		The trip to Salem was apparently "a venture of their own design, not one of divine direction."<ref>Joseph Fielding McConkie, Craig J. Ostler, ''Revelations of the Restoration'' (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 2000), p. 896.</ref> Two weeks after receiving the revelation recorded in D&C 111, Joseph wrote the following letter to his wife Emma from Salem.

RogerNicholson: /* The revelation itself indicates that the Lord did not command the prophet to go to Salem */

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	This was a period in which great financial difficulties were being experienced by the Church in Kirtland—hence the motivation to search after the alleged treasure.		This was a period in which great financial difficulties were being experienced by the Church in Kirtland—hence the motivation to search after the alleged treasure.

	===The revelation itself indicates that the Lord did ''not'' command the prophet to go to Salem===		===The revelation itself indicates that the Lord did ''not'' command the prophet to go to Salem to obtain money===

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	===The ~~Lord did not command the~~ trip to Salem===		===The trip to Salem was apparently "venture of their own design"===

	The trip to Salem was apparently "a venture of their own design, not one of divine direction."<ref>Joseph Fielding McConkie, Craig J. Ostler, ''Revelations of the Restoration'' (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 2000), p. 896.</ref> Two weeks after receiving the revelation recorded in D&C 111, Joseph wrote the following letter to his wife Emma from Salem.		The trip to Salem was apparently "a venture of their own design, not one of divine direction."<ref>Joseph Fielding McConkie, Craig J. Ostler, ''Revelations of the Restoration'' (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Company, 2000), p. 896.</ref> Two weeks after receiving the revelation recorded in D&C 111, Joseph wrote the following letter to his wife Emma from Salem.

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	===~~Reasons for the~~ trip to the East===		===The trip to the East was an effort to find a means to relieve some of the outstanding debt that the Church===
	~~This criticism refers to the revelation contained in D&C 111. The introduction states:~~

	~~:''At this time~~ the ~~leaders~~ of the Church ~~were heavily~~ in debt ~~due to~~ their ~~labors~~ in the ~~ministry. Hearing~~ that a large amount of money would be available to them in Salem, the ~~Prophet, Sidney Rigdon, Hyrum Smith, and Oliver Cowdery traveled there from Kirtland, Ohio, to investigate this claim, along with preaching~~ the ~~gospel~~. The ~~brethren transacted several items of church business and did some preaching. When it became apparent that no money was to be forthcoming, they returned to Kirtland.''~~		On July 25, 1836, Joseph, Hyrum, Sidney Rigdon and Oliver Cowdery began a journey from Kirtland to the East Coast for the purpose of seeking a means to relieve some of the outstanding debt that the Church had incurred. The men visited New York City in order to consult with their creditors regarding their debt.<ref>Donald Q. Cannon, "Joseph Smith in Salem, (D&C 111)" Robert L. Millet and Kent P. Jackson (editors), ''Studies in Scripture, Vol. 1: The Doctrine and Covenants'', (Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1989), pp. 433.</ref> Four days later, upon completing their business in New York, they then continued on to Salem, Massachusetts.

			===After visiting New York City, the men traveled to Salem upon hearing that a large amount of money would be available to them there===

			The trip to Salem is the subject of the revelation contained in D&C 111. The introduction states:

	~~On July 25~~, ~~1836~~, ~~Joseph~~, Hyrum, ~~Sidney Rigdon~~ and Oliver Cowdery ~~began a journey~~ from Kirtland to the ~~East Coast for the purpose~~ of ~~seeking a means to relieve~~ some ~~of the outstanding debt~~ that the Church ~~had incurred~~. The ~~men visited New York City in order~~ to ~~consult with their creditors regarding their debt.~~<~~ref~~>~~Donald Q. Cannon~~, ~~"Joseph Smith in Salem, (D&C 111)" Robert L. Millet and Kent P. Jackson (editors)~~, ''~~Studies in Scripture~~, ~~Vol. 1: The Doctrine and Covenants~~'', (~~Salt Lake City: Deseret Book, 1989~~)~~, pp. 433.~~</~~ref~~> ~~Four days later, upon completing their business in New York, they then continued on to Salem, Massachusetts.~~		<blockquote>
			''At this time the leaders of the Church were heavily in debt due to their labors in the ministry. Hearing that a large amount of money would be available to them in Salem, the Prophet, Sidney Rigdon, Hyrum Smith, and Oliver Cowdery traveled there from Kirtland, Ohio, to investigate this claim, along with preaching the gospel. The brethren transacted several items of church business and did some preaching. When it became apparent that no money was to be forthcoming, they returned to Kirtland.''
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			This was a period in which great financial difficulties were being experienced by the Church in Kirtland—hence the motivation to search after the alleged treasure.

			===The revelation itself indicates that the Lord did ''not'' command the prophet to go to Salem===

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			I, the Lord your God, '''am not displeased with your coming this journey, notwithstanding your follies'''. ({{s\|\|DC\|111\|1}}) {{ea}}
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	B.H. Roberts provides additional information regarding the reason for the trip.		B.H. Roberts provides additional information regarding the reason for the trip.

	:While the Prophet gives a somewhat circumstantial account of this journey to Salem and his return to Kirtland in September, he nowhere assigns an adequate cause for himself and company making it—the object of it is not stated. Ebenezer Robinson, for many years a faithful and prominent elder in the church, and at Nauvoo associated with Don Carlos Smith—brother of the Prophet—in editing and publishing the Times and Seasons, states that the journey to Salem arose from these circumstances. There came to Kirtland a brother by the name of Burgess who stated that he had knowledge of a large amount of money secreted in the cellar of a certain house in Salem, Massachusetts, which had belonged to a widow (then deceased), and thought he was the only person who had knowledge of it, or of the location of the house. The brethren accepting the representations of Burgess as true made the journey to Salem to secure, if possible, the treasure. Burgess, according to Robinson, met the brethren in Salem, but claimed that time had wrought such changes in the town that he could not for a certainty point out the house "and soon left."<ref>{{CHC \| vol=1\|start=410\|end=411 }}</ref>		<blockquote>
			While the Prophet gives a somewhat circumstantial account of this journey to Salem and his return to Kirtland in September, he nowhere assigns an adequate cause for himself and company making it—the object of it is not stated. Ebenezer Robinson, for many years a faithful and prominent elder in the church, and at Nauvoo associated with Don Carlos Smith—brother of the Prophet—in editing and publishing the Times and Seasons, states that the journey to Salem arose from these circumstances. There came to Kirtland a brother by the name of Burgess who stated that he had knowledge of a large amount of money secreted in the cellar of a certain house in Salem, Massachusetts, which had belonged to a widow (then deceased), and thought he was the only person who had knowledge of it, or of the location of the house. The brethren accepting the representations of Burgess as true made the journey to Salem to secure, if possible, the treasure. Burgess, according to Robinson, met the brethren in Salem, but claimed that time had wrought such changes in the town that he could not for a certainty point out the house "and soon left."<ref>{{CHC \| vol=1\|start=410\|end=411 }}</ref>
	This was a period in which great financial difficulties were being experienced by the Church in Kirtland—hence the motivation to search after the alleged treasure. The revelation itself indicates that the Lord did ''not'' command the prophet to go to Salem:		</blockquote>
	~~:I, the Lord your God, '''am not displeased with your coming this journey, notwithstanding your follies'''. ({{s\|\|DC\|111\|1}}) {{ea}}~~

	===The Lord did not command the trip to Salem===		===The Lord did not command the trip to Salem===

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	*Joseph Smith was commanded by the Lord to go to Salem, Massachusetts to hunt for treasure in the cellar of a house. Upon arriving there, the treasure was nowhere to be found. It is claimed that this proves that Joseph was not a prophet.		*Joseph Smith was commanded by the Lord to go to Salem, Massachusetts to hunt for treasure in the cellar of a house. Upon arriving there, the treasure was nowhere to be found. It is claimed that this proves that Joseph was not a prophet.
	*It is claimed that Joseph was "hoping one last time that the use of his seer stone might produce treasure that he had been told lay under a house..."		*It is claimed that Joseph was "hoping one last time that the use of his seer stone might produce treasure that he had been told lay under a house..."

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	These conversions were sufficiently noticed to have been commented on by two of Salem's newspapers, the ''Salem Gazette'' on Dec. 7, 1841, and ''The Salem Register'' on June 2, 1842.		These conversions were sufficiently noticed to have been commented on by two of Salem's newspapers, the ''Salem Gazette'' on Dec. 7, 1841, and ''The Salem Register'' on June 2, 1842.
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