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	*David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', 31.		*David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', 31.
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	*[[~~Polygamy_book~~/~~Introduction_of_the_eternal_marriage~~\|Fanny Alger: affair or marriage?]]		*[[Polygamy book/Introduction of the eternal marriage\|Fanny Alger: affair or marriage?]]
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	David Whitmer said that Joseph Smith claimed that "[s]ome revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil"		David Whitmer said that Joseph Smith claimed that "[s]ome revelations are of God: some revelations are of man: and some revelations are of the devil"
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	*David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', 31.		*David Whitmer, ''An Address to All Believers in Christ'', 31.
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	Joseph said that "Fifty-six years should wind up the scene" before the second coming of Jesus Christ.		Joseph said that "Fifty-six years should wind up the scene" before the second coming of Jesus Christ.
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	Were Latter-day Saint men encouraged to take plural wives "of the Lamanites and Nephites" in order to make them "white, delightsome and just?"		Were Latter-day Saint men encouraged to take plural wives "of the Lamanites and Nephites" in order to make them "white, delightsome and just?"
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	*Marquardt, 375.		*Marquardt, 375.
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	Joseph's first polyamous marriage was with Fanny Alger.		Joseph's first polyamous marriage was with Fanny Alger.
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	*Andrew Jenson, 233.		*Andrew Jenson, 233.
	*Benjamin F. Johnson, letter to George S. Gibbs, 1903.		*Benjamin F. Johnson, letter to George S. Gibbs, 1903.
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	Did William McLellin report that Joseph and Fanny were found "in the barn together alone...?"		Did William McLellin report that Joseph and Fanny were found "in the barn together alone...?"
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	*{{CriticalWork:Compton:Sacred Loneliness\|pages=35}}		*{{CriticalWork:Compton:Sacred Loneliness\|pages=35}}
	*Ann Elza Web Young, ''Wife No. 19'', 66-67.		*Ann Elza Web Young, ''Wife No. 19'', 66-67.
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	Joseph is claimed to have owned one hundred and forty acres of land near the Kirtland temple lot in addition to four acres of business property.		Joseph is claimed to have owned one hundred and forty acres of land near the Kirtland temple lot in addition to four acres of business property.
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	*Robert Kent Fielding, "The Growth of the Mormon Church in Kirtland, Ohio," Unpublished Ph.D. dissertation, Indiana University, 1957, typed copy, 202-204. 206-208, 211-212. Quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner, ''The Mormon Kingdom'', vol. 1, 9.		*Robert Kent Fielding, "The Growth of the Mormon Church in Kirtland, Ohio," Unpublished Ph.D. dissertation, Indiana University, 1957, typed copy, 202-204. 206-208, 211-212. Quoted in Jerald and Sandra Tanner, ''The Mormon Kingdom'', vol. 1, 9.
	*Unfortunately, the primary sources used by Fielding and Tanner are not provided.		*Unfortunately, the primary sources used by Fielding and Tanner are not provided.

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	*Does ''History of the Church'' claim that instead, they were only married "according to the rules and regulations of the Church of the Latter-day Saints?"		*Does ''History of the Church'' claim that instead, they were only married "according to the rules and regulations of the Church of the Latter-day Saints?"
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	Did land specuation in Kirtland "consume" the "thoughts of nearly every Saint, including [Joseph] Smith?"		Did land specuation in Kirtland "consume" the "thoughts of nearly every Saint, including [Joseph] Smith?"
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	Was Isaac McWithy brought before the church's High Council on charges of "insolence" after refusing to sell his land to Joseph Smith for $3000?		Was Isaac McWithy brought before the church's High Council on charges of "insolence" after refusing to sell his land to Joseph Smith for $3000?
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	{{misinformation\|This was not a personal transaction with Joseph, and McWithy's reneging on the deal would cost the Church four to five hundred dollars.		{{misinformation\|This was not a personal transaction with Joseph, and McWithy's reneging on the deal would cost the Church four to five hundred dollars.
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	Is it true that "[e]veryone's pockets bulged with bills" in Kirtland after the bank was established as asserted by Fawn Brodie?		Is it true that "[e]veryone's pockets bulged with bills" in Kirtland after the bank was established as asserted by Fawn Brodie?
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	{{propaganda\|The author quotes Brodie's opinion. Brodie provides no citation to back up the assertion that "everyone's pockets bulged with bills."		{{propaganda\|The author quotes Brodie's opinion. Brodie provides no citation to back up the assertion that "everyone's pockets bulged with bills."

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