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	{{propaganda\|Two hundred pages later, we learn that this suspicion was only because of his [Clayton’s] “discussion of plural marriage” (p. 445), and his [Smith’s] own introduction to Clayton’s journals tell us that the charge was actually raised by an “apostate Mormon,” whom Clayton claimed had maliciously distorted his words, leading to what he called his life’s most painful experience. <ref>Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', xlix, 488–489, 490 n. 444.</ref>		{{propaganda\|Two hundred pages later, we learn that this suspicion was only because of his [Clayton’s] “discussion of plural marriage” (p. 445), and his [Smith’s] own introduction to Clayton’s journals tell us that the charge was actually raised by an “apostate Mormon,” whom Clayton claimed had maliciously distorted his words, leading to what he called his life’s most painful experience.<ref>Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', xlix, 488–489, 490 n. 444.</ref>
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	*[[Polygamy/William Clayton]]		*[[Polygamy/William Clayton]]
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	*[[Plural marriage spiritual manifestations#~~Benjamin_Johnson~~\|Plural marriage spiritual manifestations—Benjamin_Johnson]]		*[[Plural marriage spiritual manifestations#Benjamin Johnson\|Plural marriage spiritual manifestations—Benjamin_Johnson]]

	==Response to claim: 250 - Benjamin Johnson is said to have been "Impressed by the prophet's inner calm but not fully convinced"==		==Response to claim: 250 - Benjamin Johnson is said to have been "Impressed by the prophet's inner calm but not fully convinced"==
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	By not telling us this, The author hides the true reason for Johnson's decision to approach his sister, and the fact that his conversion (as recounted by the author) was a fulfillment of Joseph's prophetic promise.		By not telling us this, The author hides the true reason for Johnson's decision to approach his sister, and the fact that his conversion (as recounted by the author) was a fulfillment of Joseph's prophetic promise.
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	*[[Plural marriage spiritual manifestations#~~Benjamin_Johnson~~\|Plural marriage spiritual manifestations—Benjamin_Johnson]]		*[[Plural marriage spiritual manifestations#Benjamin Johnson\|Plural marriage spiritual manifestations—Benjamin_Johnson]]

	==Response to claim: 252 - Joseph "was able to wrap himself in the authority of the Bible"==		==Response to claim: 252 - Joseph "was able to wrap himself in the authority of the Bible"==
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	#Quinn, ''Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power'', 212; ''Extensions of Power'', 163–97; Herbert R. Larsen, "Familism in Mormon Social Structure," Ph.D. diss., U of Utah, 1954.		#Quinn, ''Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power'', 212; ''Extensions of Power'', 163–97; Herbert R. Larsen, "Familism in Mormon Social Structure," Ph.D. diss., U of Utah, 1954.
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	{{propaganda\|The author here suggests that Joseph's motivations were mercenary and pragmatic, rather than of sincere conviction. The author ignores the literature on Joseph's deep-felt need and commitment to binding friendship in his personal life and theology. <ref>Steven Epperson, ""The Grand, Fundamental Principle": Joseph Smith and the Virtue of Friendship," ''Journal of Mormon History'' 23/2 (Fall 1997): 81-101. See also {{s\|\|DC\|84\|63,77-78}}, {{s\|\|DC\|88\|3-4,62,113,117}}, {{s\|\|DC\|93\|51}}, {{s\|\|DC\|94\|1}}, {{s\|\|DC\|97\|1}}, {{s\|\|DC\|100\|1}}, {{s\|\|DC\|103\|1}}, {{s\|\|DC\|104\|1}}, {{s\|\|DC\|105\|26}}, {{s\|\|DC\|109\|6}}, {{s\|\|DC\|121\|9-10}}, {{s\|\|DC\|125\|25}}, {{s\|\|JS-H\|1\|28}}.</ref> Such a pervasive theme in his personal and scriptural writing argues against "convenience" as his motivation.		{{propaganda\|The author here suggests that Joseph's motivations were mercenary and pragmatic, rather than of sincere conviction. The author ignores the literature on Joseph's deep-felt need and commitment to binding friendship in his personal life and theology.<ref>Steven Epperson, ""The Grand, Fundamental Principle": Joseph Smith and the Virtue of Friendship," ''Journal of Mormon History'' 23/2 (Fall 1997): 81-101. See also {{s\|\|D&C\|84\|63,77-78}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|88\|3-4,62,113,117}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|93\|51}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|94\|1}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|97\|1}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|100\|1}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|103\|1}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|104\|1}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|105\|26}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|109\|6}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|121\|9-10}}, {{s\|\|D&C\|125\|25}}, {{s\|\|JS-H\|1\|28}}.</ref> Such a pervasive theme in his personal and scriptural writing argues against "convenience" as his motivation.
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	*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language\|Loaded and prejudicial language]]		*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language\|Loaded and prejudicial language]]
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	{{misinformation\|Joseph reportedly specifically addressed the matter in the first half of the 1830s.		{{misinformation\|Joseph reportedly specifically addressed the matter in the first half of the 1830s.
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	*[[~~Polygamy_book~~/Initiation of the practice\|Initiation of the practice]]		*[[Polygamy book/Initiation of the practice\|Initiation of the practice]]

	==Response to claim: 263 n. 54 - Ann Eliza Young said that the events she described "have fallen directly under my observation"==		==Response to claim: 263 n. 54 - Ann Eliza Young said that the events she described "have fallen directly under my observation"==
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			==References==
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			\|L3=Response to claim: 245 - Instead of waiting for his wife Sarah's arrival, William Clayton married his legal wife’s sister Margaret on April 27
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	====244====		==Response to claim: 244 - Joseph Smith and William Clayton were "conspiring to alter" his wife's "marital status"==
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	#No source provided.		#No source provided.
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			{{propaganda\|There is no evidence to support this speculation.
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	*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language\|Loaded and prejudicial language]]		*[[../../Loaded and prejudicial language\|Loaded and prejudicial language]]
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	====245====		==Response to claim: 245 - Instead of waiting for his wife Sarah's arrival, William Clayton married his legal wife’s sister Margaret on April 27==
	{{IndexClaimItemShort		{{IndexClaimItemShort
	\|title=Nauvoo Polygamy		\|title=Nauvoo Polygamy
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	#Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', 94, 99, 107, 556.		#Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', 94, 99, 107, 556.
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	*The author strives to paint Clayton as unfaithful to both his first wife (having already had an inappropriate level of emotional intimacy with another woman and the woman against whom he "conspired" with Joseph.		{{propaganda\|The author strives to paint Clayton as unfaithful to both his first wife (having already had an inappropriate level of emotional intimacy with another woman and the woman against whom he "conspired" with Joseph.
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	*{{GLS-Nauvoo Polygamy-FARMS}}		*{{GLS-Nauvoo Polygamy-FARMS}}
	{{CriticalWorks:Smith:Nauvoo_Polygamy:See_also:William Clayton}}		{{CriticalWorks:Smith:Nauvoo_Polygamy:See_also:William Clayton}}

	====247====		==Response to claim: 247 - William Clayton wrote on October 19 about needing to ''protect "the truth" by telling untruths''==
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	#{{CitationError}}The author's source is given as "Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', 122 (emphasis added)." No italics have been added by the author to any portion of Clayton's journal. All italicized material is G.D. Smith's words, not Clayton's.		#{{CitationError}}The author's source is given as "Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', 122 (emphasis added)." No italics have been added by the author to any portion of Clayton's journal. All italicized material is G.D. Smith's words, not Clayton's.
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	*The full text from the primary source is the material from "Says he..." to "...good as ever." The emphasis in italics with quotation marks is all ''the author's''—none of the material about protecting "the truth" by telling untruths derives from Clayton or Joseph Smith. Yet, the use of quotation marks and italics, which George D. Smith says have been added to the primary source, makes it appear as if these are Clayton's or Joseph's words, not the author's.		{{misinformation\|The full text from the primary source is the material from "Says he..." to "...good as ever." The emphasis in italics with quotation marks is all ''the author's''—none of the material about protecting "the truth" by telling untruths derives from Clayton or Joseph Smith. Yet, the use of quotation marks and italics, which George D. Smith says have been added to the primary source, makes it appear as if these are Clayton's or Joseph's words, not the author's.
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	{{CriticalWorks:Smith:Nauvoo_Polygamy:See_also:William Clayton}}		{{CriticalWorks:Smith:Nauvoo_Polygamy:See_also:William Clayton}}

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	====247====		==Response to claim: 247 - William Clayton was personally suspected of "having had unlawful intercourse with women"==
	{{IndexClaimItemShort		{{IndexClaimItemShort
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	*Two hundred pages later, we learn that this suspicion was only because of his [Clayton’s] “discussion of plural marriage” (p. 445), and his [Smith’s] own introduction to Clayton’s journals tell us that the charge was actually raised by an “apostate Mormon,” whom Clayton claimed had maliciously distorted his words, leading to what he called his life’s most painful experience. <ref>Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', xlix, 488–489, 490 n. 444.</ref>		{{propaganda\|Two hundred pages later, we learn that this suspicion was only because of his [Clayton’s] “discussion of plural marriage” (p. 445), and his [Smith’s] own introduction to Clayton’s journals tell us that the charge was actually raised by an “apostate Mormon,” whom Clayton claimed had maliciously distorted his words, leading to what he called his life’s most painful experience. <ref>Smith, ''Intimate Chronicle'', xlix, 488–489, 490 n. 444.</ref>
			}}
	*[[Polygamy/William Clayton]]		*[[Polygamy/William Clayton]]
	*{{GLS-Nauvoo Polygamy-FARMS}}		*{{GLS-Nauvoo Polygamy-FARMS}}

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	====243====		==Response to claim: 243 - John Bennett's marriage record "may have been deleted" after his disagreement with Joseph Smith==
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	*No evidence that Bennett's relationships were ever sanctioned.		{{misinformation\|There no evidence that Bennett's relationships were ever sanctioned, much less recorded.
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	*[[Polygamy book/John C. Bennett\|John C. Bennett]]		*[[Polygamy book/John C. Bennett\|John C. Bennett]]
	{{CriticalWorks:Smith:Nauvoo_Polygamy:See_also:John_C._Bennett}}		{{CriticalWorks:Smith:Nauvoo_Polygamy:See_also:John_C._Bennett}}

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	*No evidence that Bennett's relationships were ever sanctioned.		*No evidence that Bennett's relationships were ever sanctioned.
	*[[Polygamy book/John C. Bennett\|John C. Bennett]]		*[[Polygamy book/John C. Bennett\|John C. Bennett]]
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