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	\|claim={{AuthorQuote\|"He then initiated the secret rituals that would further repel their conventional Christian neighbors-anointings, endowments, proxy baptisms, visions, healings, writhing ecstasies, and, especially, the concepts of 'eternal progression' and 'celestial marriage.'"}}		\|claim={{AuthorQuote\|"He then initiated the secret rituals that would further repel their conventional Christian neighbors-anointings, endowments, proxy baptisms, visions, healings, writhing ecstasies, and, especially, the concepts of 'eternal progression' and 'celestial marriage.'"}}
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	{{disinformation\|Proxy baptisms were not introduced until Nauvoo, they were not known at Kirtland. Healings and visions were present from the Church's very beginnings. "Writhing ecstasies" were condemned by LDS scripture by 1831 (see {{s\|\|DC\|50\|}}). The U.S. Constitution protects private religious practices that do not harm others, including those which might "repel" one's conventional Christian neighbors.		{{disinformation\|Proxy baptisms were not introduced until Nauvoo, they were not known at Kirtland. Healings and visions were present from the Church's very beginnings. "Writhing ecstasies" were condemned by LDS scripture by 1831 (see {{s\|\|D&C\|50\|}}). The U.S. Constitution protects private religious practices that do not harm others, including those which might "repel" one's conventional Christian neighbors.
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	{{propaganda\|The author is simply repeating Brodie's claim without evidence.		{{propaganda\|The author is simply repeating Brodie's claim without evidence.
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	\|claim=It is claimed that Joseph stated that Independence Missouri was the site of the Garden of Eden and that the location of Far West was where Cain killed Abel.		\|claim=It is claimed that Joseph stated that Independence Missouri was the site of the Garden of Eden and that the location of Far West was where Cain killed Abel.
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	{{information\|This is correct.		{{information\|This is correct.
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	{{disinformation\|The author seems to be very unfamiliar with Mormon history, because she is confusing Kirtland and Nauvoo. It was the Nauvoo Legion that performed "drilling and pageantry."		{{disinformation\|The author seems to be very unfamiliar with Mormon history, because she is confusing Kirtland and Nauvoo. It was the Nauvoo Legion that performed "drilling and pageantry."
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	{{disinformation\|Proxy baptisms were not introduced until Nauvoo, they were not known at Kirtland. Healings and visions were present from the Church's very beginnings. "Writhing ecstasies" were condemned by LDS scripture by 1831 (see {{s\|\|DC\|50\|}}). The U.S. Constitution protects private religious practices that do not harm others, including those which might "repel" one's conventional Christian neighbors.		{{disinformation\|Proxy baptisms were not introduced until Nauvoo, they were not known at Kirtland. Healings and visions were present from the Church's very beginnings. "Writhing ecstasies" were condemned by LDS scripture by 1831 (see {{s\|\|DC\|50\|}}). The U.S. Constitution protects private religious practices that do not harm others, including those which might "repel" one's conventional Christian neighbors.
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	The name of the Church was changed to the "Church of Latter-day Saints" in 1834.		The name of the Church was changed to the "Church of Latter-day Saints" in 1834.
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	{{information\|This is correct. The name of the Church was changed several times prior to the revelation which provided a permanent name.		{{information\|This is correct. The name of the Church was changed several times prior to the revelation which provided a permanent name.
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	*{{CriticalWork:Wyl:Mormon Portraits Volume First\|pages=57}}		*{{CriticalWork:Wyl:Mormon Portraits Volume First\|pages=57}}
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	\|claim=Joseph issued his prophecy regarding the Civil War after visiting New York and hearing about how President Jackson should deal with "a rebellious South Carolina."		\|claim=Joseph issued his prophecy regarding the Civil War after visiting New York and hearing about how President Jackson should deal with "a rebellious South Carolina."
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	Joseph Smith's December 25, 1832 prophecy, quoted in {{CriticalWork:Quinn:Mormon Hierarchy\|pages=619}}		#Joseph Smith's December 25, 1832 prophecy, quoted in {{CriticalWork:Quinn:Mormon Hierarchy\|pages=619}}
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	{{misinformation\|There were troubles in South Carolina, but a rebellion was averted. The Church and its members continued to publicize the prophecy well after things calmed down.		{{misinformation\|There were troubles in South Carolina, but a rebellion was averted. The Church and its members continued to publicize the prophecy well after things calmed down.
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	{{propaganda\|The author is simply repeating Fawn Brodie's speculation.		{{propaganda\|The author is simply repeating Fawn Brodie's speculation.
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	{{CriticalWork:Brodie:No Man Knows\|pages=199}}		#{{CriticalWork:Brodie:No Man Knows\|pages=199}}
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	{{:Question: Did Joseph Smith personally profit from the Kirtland Safety Society?}}		{{:Question: Did Joseph Smith personally profit from the Kirtland Safety Society?}}
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	{{:Question: What is "blood atonement"?}}		{{:Question: What is "blood atonement"?}}

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