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			Steel is produced by applying an alloy (usually carbon) to iron to harden it. "Steel" is mentioned in the Book of Mormon 5 times. It is mentioned that Laban's sword was made of steel, and a few more references until about 200 years later, then it stopped. Critics have complained that steel was not invented until much later, therefore used as evidence against the Book of Mormon. Now archaeologists have found many steel artifacts from many parts of the world.

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	The absence of evidence is not proof. Here’s one small example. Matthew Roper, in a [https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2013/06/17/labans-sword-of-most-precious-steel-howlers-5-2 FairMormon Blog on June 17, 2013], writes about a criticism that was repeated many times over the years about the mention of steel in the Book of Mormon. In 1884, one critic wrote, “Laban’s sword was steel, when it is a notorious fact that the Israelites knew nothing of steel for hundreds of years afterwards. Who, but as ignorant a person as Rigdon, would have perpetuated all these blunders.” More recently Thomas O’Dey, in 1957, stated, “Every commentator on the Book of Mormon has pointed out the many cultural and historical anachronisms, such as steel. A steel sword of Laban in 600 B.C.” <br>		The absence of evidence is not proof. Here’s one small example. Matthew Roper, in a [https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2013/06/17/labans-sword-of-most-precious-steel-howlers-5-2 FairMormon Blog on June 17, 2013], writes about a criticism that was repeated many times over the years about the mention of steel in the Book of Mormon. In 1884, one critic wrote, “Laban’s sword was steel, when it is a notorious fact that the Israelites knew nothing of steel for hundreds of years afterwards. Who, but as ignorant a person as Rigdon, would have perpetuated all these blunders.” More recently Thomas O’Dey, in 1957, stated, “Every commentator on the Book of Mormon has pointed out the many cultural and historical anachronisms, such as steel. A steel sword of Laban in 600 B.C.” <br>
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	—Elder D. Todd Christofferson, "The Prophet Joseph Smith", Devotional Address, BYU Idaho, September 24, 2013.		—Elder D. Todd Christofferson, "The Prophet Joseph Smith", Devotional Address, BYU Idaho, September 24, 2013.
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			{{:Source:Roper:Laban’s Sword of “Most Precious Steel”:archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho}}
	{{:Source:Madden et al:How the Iron Age Began:Scientific American 237:4:by the beginning of the tenth century B.C. blacksmiths were intentionally steeling iron}}		{{:Source:Madden et al:How the Iron Age Began:Scientific American 237:4:by the beginning of the tenth century B.C. blacksmiths were intentionally steeling iron}}
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	{{:Source:Roper:Laban’s Sword of “Most Precious Steel”:Sophisticated iron technology}}		{{:Source:Roper:Laban’s Sword of “Most Precious Steel”:Sophisticated iron technology}}
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	{{:Source:Hamblin:Steel in the Book of Mormon:there are no references to Nephite steel after 400 B.C.}}		{{:Source:Hamblin:Steel in the Book of Mormon:there are no references to Nephite steel after 400 B.C.}}
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			[https://bookofmormoncentral.org/qa/how-could-laban-have-possessed-a-sword-of-%E2%80%9Cmost-precious-steel%E2%80%9D Book of Mormon Central further discusses Steel in the Book of Mormon here]
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	\|L3=Roper: "For example, an iron knife was found in an eleventh century Philistine tomb showed evidence of deliberate carburization"		\|L3=Roper: "For example, an iron knife was found in an eleventh century Philistine tomb showed evidence of deliberate carburization"
	\|L4=Roper: "archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho"		\|L4=Roper: "archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho"
	\|L5=~~Source:~~Sorenson:~~JBMS 15:2:~~By 1400 BC, smiths in Armenia had discovered how to carburize iron by prolonged heating in contact with carbon		\|L5=Sorenson: "By 1400 BC, smiths in Armenia had discovered how to carburize iron by prolonged heating in contact with carbon"
	\|L6=Source:Hamblin:Steel in the Book of Mormon:there are no references to Nephite steel after 400 B.C.		\|L6=Source:Hamblin:Steel in the Book of Mormon:there are no references to Nephite steel after 400 B.C.
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	\|L3=Roper: "For example, an iron knife was found in an eleventh century Philistine tomb showed evidence of deliberate carburization"		\|L3=Roper: "For example, an iron knife was found in an eleventh century Philistine tomb showed evidence of deliberate carburization"
	\|L4=~~Source:~~Roper:~~Laban’s Sword of “Most Precious Steel”:~~archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho		\|L4=Roper: "archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho"
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	\|L6=Source:Hamblin:Steel in the Book of Mormon:there are no references to Nephite steel after 400 B.C.		\|L6=Source:Hamblin:Steel in the Book of Mormon:there are no references to Nephite steel after 400 B.C.

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	\|L3=~~Source:~~Roper:~~Laban’s Sword~~ of ~~“Most Precious Steel”:Sophisticated iron technology~~		\|L3=Roper: "For example, an iron knife was found in an eleventh century Philistine tomb showed evidence of deliberate carburization"
	\|L4=Source:Roper:Laban’s Sword of “Most Precious Steel”:archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho		\|L4=Source:Roper:Laban’s Sword of “Most Precious Steel”:archaeologists have discovered a carburized iron sword near Jericho
	\|L5=Source:Sorenson:JBMS 15:2:By 1400 BC, smiths in Armenia had discovered how to carburize iron by prolonged heating in contact with carbon		\|L5=Source:Sorenson:JBMS 15:2:By 1400 BC, smiths in Armenia had discovered how to carburize iron by prolonged heating in contact with carbon

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	The absence of evidence is not proof. Here’s one small example. Matthew Roper, in a [https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2013/06/17/labans-sword-of-most-precious-steel-howlers-5-2 FairMormon Blog on June 17, 2013], writes about a criticism that was repeated many times over the years about the mention of steel in the Book of Mormon. In 1884, one critic wrote, “Laban’s sword was steel, when it is a notorious fact that the Israelites knew nothing of steel for hundreds of years afterwards. Who, but as ignorant a person as Rigdon, would have perpetuated all these blunders.” More recently Thomas O’Dey, in 1957, stated, “Every commentator on the Book of Mormon has pointed out the many cultural and historical anachronisms, such as steel. A steel sword of Laban in 600 B.C.” <br>		The absence of evidence is not proof. Here’s one small example. Matthew Roper, in a [https://www.fairmormon.org/blog/2013/06/17/labans-sword-of-most-precious-steel-howlers-5-2 FairMormon Blog on June 17, 2013], writes about a criticism that was repeated many times over the years about the mention of steel in the Book of Mormon. In 1884, one critic wrote, “Laban’s sword was steel, when it is a notorious fact that the Israelites knew nothing of steel for hundreds of years afterwards. Who, but as ignorant a person as Rigdon, would have perpetuated all these blunders.” More recently Thomas O’Dey, in 1957, stated, “Every commentator on the Book of Mormon has pointed out the many cultural and historical anachronisms, such as steel. A steel sword of Laban in 600 B.C.” <br>
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