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GregSmith at 03:22, 4 June 2014

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	:TO THE SAINTS IN ALL THE WORLD.		:TO THE SAINTS IN ALL THE WORLD.
	:DEAR BRETHREN, — Permit me to draw your attention to the proclamation of the First Presidency and Twelve, published in the DESERET NEWS, and copied into the MILLENNIAL STAR of the 21st inst., in which several publications that have issued from my pen are considered objectionable. I, therefore, embrace the present opportunity of publicly expressing my most sincere regret, that I have ever published the least thing which meets with the disapprobation of the highest authorities of the Church; and I do most cordially join with them in the request, that you should make such dispositions of the publications alluded to, as counselled in their proclamation.		:DEAR BRETHREN, — Permit me to draw your attention to the proclamation of the First Presidency and Twelve, published in the DESERET NEWS, and copied into the MILLENNIAL STAR of the 21st inst., in which several publications that have issued from my pen are considered objectionable. I, therefore, embrace the present opportunity of publicly expressing my most sincere regret, that I have ever published the least thing which meets with the disapprobation of the highest authorities of the Church; and I do most cordially join with them in the request, that you should make such dispositions of the publications alluded to, as counselled in their proclamation.

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GregSmith at 03:21, 4 June 2014

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	:DEAR BRETHREN, — Permit me to draw your attention to the proclamation of the First Presidency and Twelve, published in the DESERET NEWS, and copied into the MILLENNIAL STAR of the 21st inst., in which several publications that have issued from my pen are considered objectionable. I, therefore, embrace the present opportunity of publicly expressing my most sincere regret, that I have ever published the least thing which meets with the disapprobation of the highest authorities of the Church; and I do most cordially join with them in the request, that you should make such dispositions of the publications alluded to, as counselled in their proclamation.		:DEAR BRETHREN, — Permit me to draw your attention to the proclamation of the First Presidency and Twelve, published in the DESERET NEWS, and copied into the MILLENNIAL STAR of the 21st inst., in which several publications that have issued from my pen are considered objectionable. I, therefore, embrace the present opportunity of publicly expressing my most sincere regret, that I have ever published the least thing which meets with the disapprobation of the highest authorities of the Church; and I do most cordially join with them in the request, that you should make such dispositions of the publications alluded to, as counselled in their proclamation.

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	*Letter from Brigham Young in ''Latter-day Saints' Millennial Star'' 17:298 (12 May 1855){{~~link\|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/u?/MStar,16806~~}}
	*Orson Pratt's confession in ''Journal of Discourses'' 7:374–76 (29 January 1860){{link\|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cgi-bin/docviewer.exe?CISOROOT=/JournalOfDiscourses3&CISOPTR=9603&CISOSHOW=2770}}
	*''Messages of the First Presidency'' 2:214
	*''Comprehensive History of the Church'' 4:61–62, note 16.
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GregSmith at 03:27, 2 June 2014

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	Some critics of the Church quote from a newspaper called ''The Seer''. Was this newspaper published by the Church? Are its contents considered official Church doctrine?		Some critics of the Church quote from a newspaper called ''The Seer''. Was this newspaper published by the Church? Are its contents considered official Church doctrine?

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	''The Seer'' was a periodical published by Elder Orson Pratt in Washington D.C. in 1853 and 1854. Brigham Young sent Elder Pratt east to defend the Church in print after the public announcement of plural marriage in 1852. ''The Seer'' was the resulting apologetic work.		''The Seer'' was a periodical published by Elder Orson Pratt in Washington D.C. in 1853 and 1854. Brigham Young sent Elder Pratt east to defend the Church in print after the public announcement of plural marriage in 1852. ''The Seer'' was the resulting apologetic work.
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	''The Seer'' was publicly disowned and rejected by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve in 1865. (See the documentation below.) Despite any truths that it may contain, it cannot be relied upon as an accurate reflection of LDS doctrine.		''The Seer'' was publicly disowned and rejected by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve in 1865. (See the documentation below.) Despite any truths that it may contain, it cannot be relied upon as an accurate reflection of LDS doctrine.

	'''Proclamation of the First Presidency and Twelve, October 21, 1865 (excerpt):{{~~ref~~\|~~motfp1~~}}~~'''~~		'''Proclamation of the First Presidency and Twelve, October 21, 1865 (excerpt):'''<ref>{{Messages1st2 \|start=235 \| end=240}}</ref>

	:Whenever brother Orson Pratt has written upon that which he knows, and has confined himself to doctrines which he understands, his arguments are convincing and unanswerable; but, when he has indulged in hypotheses and theories, he has launched forth on an endless sea of speculation to which there is no horizon. The last half of the tract entitled "The Holy Spirit," contains excellent and conclusive arguments, and is all that could be wished; so also with many of his writings. But the Seer [and some of his other writings]...contain doctrines which we cannot sanction, and which we have felt impressed to disown, so that the Saints who now live, and who may live hereafter, may not be misled by our silence, or be left to misinterpret it. Where these objectionable works, or parts of works, are bound in volumes, or otherwise, they should be cut out and destroyed; with proper care this can be done without much, if any, injury to the volumes.		:Whenever brother Orson Pratt has written upon that which he knows, and has confined himself to doctrines which he understands, his arguments are convincing and unanswerable; but, when he has indulged in hypotheses and theories, he has launched forth on an endless sea of speculation to which there is no horizon. The last half of the tract entitled "The Holy Spirit," contains excellent and conclusive arguments, and is all that could be wished; so also with many of his writings. But the Seer [and some of his other writings]...contain doctrines which we cannot sanction, and which we have felt impressed to disown, so that the Saints who now live, and who may live hereafter, may not be misled by our silence, or be left to misinterpret it. Where these objectionable works, or parts of works, are bound in volumes, or otherwise, they should be cut out and destroyed; with proper care this can be done without much, if any, injury to the volumes.
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	*''Messages of the First Presidency'' 2:214		*''Messages of the First Presidency'' 2:214
	*''Comprehensive History of the Church'' 4:61–62, note 16.		*''Comprehensive History of the Church'' 4:61–62, note 16.
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	*Lance Starr, "'The Seer:' Reliable Source?"{{fairlink\|url=http://www.fairlds.org/Misc/Is_The%20Seer_a_Reliable_Source.html}}

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	*''The Seer'' (scanned copies at BYU Library web site){{link\|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cgi-bin/docviewer.exe?CISOROOT=/NCMP1847-1877&CISOPTR=2915}}
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	''The Seer'' was a periodical published by Elder Orson Pratt in Washington D.C. in 1853 and 1854. Brigham Young sent Elder Pratt east to defend the Church in print after the public announcement of plural marriage in 1852. ''The Seer'' was the resulting apologetic work.		''The Seer'' was a periodical published by Elder Orson Pratt in Washington D.C. in 1853 and 1854. Brigham Young sent Elder Pratt east to defend the Church in print after the public announcement of plural marriage in 1852. ''The Seer'' was the resulting apologetic work.