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<p>RogerNicholson: </p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Question: Was “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” drafted by lawyers in Hawaii in response to legal concerns the Church had over the legalization of gay marriage?==<br /> ===It seems that it is true that these legal concerns played a role but it does not appear that they played the only role.===<br /> It is claimed by some that “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” was drafted by lawyers in Hawaii in response to legal concerns the Church had over the legalization of gay marriage. This issue has been discussed at length elsewhere. To discuss, two posts will be reproduced that address this question—one post responding and giving more context to the other. Citations will be retained for easy reference. In the first article, a blogger for Rational Faiths lays out the historical background of the Family Proclamation and the concerns over same-sex marriage in Hawaii. In the second, another blogger adds more historical context to the situation in response to the first&lt;ref&gt;These articles are reproduced for quality. They have been reproduced in full for preservation. Citations are retained for easy reference.&lt;/ref&gt;.<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- I'm hiding the following two sections for the moment so that it can be discussed online. Rational Faiths (and Compton) are a critical source - Roger<br /> <br /> === From Amici to Ohana: The Hawaiian Roots of the Family Proclamation (written 15 May 2015)===<br /> [. . .] we remind ourselves what was happening in the Mormon American West in the early 1990s. Ezra Taft Benson was the prophet and titular leader of the LDS Church, but he was in ill health, to say the least. First Counselor Gordon B. Hinckley was the public spokesman in many places (a supportive role he continued throughout successor Howard W. Hunter’s administration until he became the new president of the Church on March 12, 1995). Boyd K. Packer was the Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles since Hinckley was serving in the First Presidency rather than the larger quorum. President Packer and Spencer W. Kimball had regularly addressed the Church at large regarding issues related to gender roles, sexuality, family values, and chastity.<br /> <br /> Our trip in time will help us to understand the context for the creation of the LDS Proclamation on the Family. While there were other places dealing with same-sex marriage and gay rights at the time, notably Colorado and Alaska, Hawaii’s issues were pivotal. Perhaps our historical insights will make a difference in how we view the document.<br /> <br /> After September’s arguments in Baehr v. Lewin, it is only a couple of weeks before the ruling is issued. In early October 1991, Hawaii’s Regional Representative Donald L. Hallstrom picks up a newspaper to read that the first same-sex marriage case in the state has been decided. The verdict: Case dismissed for, among other things, failing to state a relievable claim, and the couples appeal to the state’s supreme court. If Hawaii’s highest court takes the case, same-sex marriage could come to Hawaii. Hallstrom makes sure his priesthood leaders are aware of the situation.<br /> <br /> Despite the flurry of activity surrounding October’s General Conference and the illness of President Benson, within weeks the First Presidency still comes up with a letter addressing homosexuality. On November 14, 1991, their letter titled “Standards of Morality and Fidelity” reads in part:<br /> <br /> We call upon members to renew their commitment to live the Lord’s standard of moral conduct. Parents should teach their children the sacred nature of procreative powers and instill in them a desire to be chaste in thought and deed. A correct understanding of the divinely appointed roles of men and women will fortify all against sinful practices. Our only real safety, physically and spiritually, lies in keeping the Lord’s commandments.<br /> <br /> The Lord’s law of moral conduct is abstinence outside of lawful marriage and fidelity within marriage. Sexual relations are proper only between husband and wife appropriately expressed within the bonds of marriage. Any other sexual contact, including fornication, adultery, and homosexual and lesbian behavior, is sinful. Those who persist in such practices or who influence others to do so are subject to Church discipline.<br /> <br /> Justices heard the case in October 1992, and the appellate ruling came down on May 1993: If the government planned to prevent same-sex marriages, it needed a compelling reason to do so. Otherwise, limiting who one may marry is sex-based discrimination, which is unconstitutional in Hawaii. The high court sent the case back to the trial court for review using the higher court’s guidelines, which gave the legislature time to take action during its next session in January 1994.<br /> <br /> Legislatively, Mormons and Catholics worked to influence the outcome of bills aimed at keeping marriage between a man and a woman by [http://www.mormonsocialscience.org/2008/01/04/richley-crapo-chronology-of-mormon-lds-involvement-in-same-sex-marriage-politics/ providing expert testimony, hiring lobbyists and reviewing legislation, and generally working behind the scenes and out of spotlights].<br /> <br /> Publicly, the First Presidency issued [http://www.ldspapers.faithweb.com/cgi-bin/i/same-gender-marriages.jpg another letter dated February 1, 1994], presaging the language that would be found in the Proclamation on the Family. An excerpt from this letter appeared in the Church Handbook of Instructions beginning in 1998 and remained there until its 2010 revision:<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;Marriage between a man and a woman is ordained of God to fulfill the eternal destiny of His children. The union of husband and wife assures perpetuation of the race and provides a divinely ordained setting for the nurturing and teaching of children. This sacred family setting, with father and mother and children firmly committed to each other and to righteous living, offers the best hope for avoiding many of the ills that afflict society.<br /> We encourage members to appeal to legislators, judges, and other government officials to preserve the purposes and sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman, and to reject all efforts to give legal authorization or other official approval or support to marriages between persons of the same gender.&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> After another year of working with legislators, attorneys and others in Hawaii, in February 1995, [http://www.deseretnews.com/article/415259/3-LDS-OFFICIALS-SEEK-TO-JOIN-HAWAII-SUIT.html?pg=all the Church announced it had decided to file a petition] to intervene in the Baehr case in order to “protect freedom of religion to solemnize marriages between a man and a woman under Hawaiian law.” Elder Hallstrom reinforced the importance of this move by the church, saying “There are times when certain moral issues become so compelling that the churches have a duty to make their feelings known.” The trial court eventually rejected the petition on grounds that the church had failed to demonstrate it had any “property or transaction” in the case at hand, and the Supreme Court upheld that decision.&lt;ref&gt; The trial court’s decision came in April 1995 and [http://www.nlf.net/Activities/briefs/miike.html the Supreme Court upheld that position in its January, 1996 ruling].&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Over on the Mainland, an ailing President Howard W. Hunter died. He’d served as LDS president from the time Benson died in May 1994 until March 3rd, 1995. On March 12, 1995, Gordon B. Hinckley became the president of the Church. It was still less than one month after the announcement that the Church would be intervening in the Baehr case, but before the petition to intervene was denied. Priesthood leaders were hearing reports from Hawaii about the progress of same-sex marriage cases and Area President Loren C. Dunn prepared to fly out to Hawaii and begin [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HHnmBoJUgJXgEep3hgbVUwUyAHn61BQq0A5V536rQ00/edit gathering a coalition together in the Fall].<br /> <br /> Two weeks before the October 1995 General Conference, President Hinckley met with the General Relief Society presidency to discuss their plans for their general meeting that would be held the last Saturday in September. At that time, he informed President Elaine Jack and her counselors Aileen Clyde and Chieko Okazaki that he had a Proclamation on the Family that he was going to introduce at conference and that during the course of their meeting, he had decided that he would like to make it public during the Relief Society meeting. He also asked the General Relief Society presidency to adjust the focus of their remarks so that they would address the idea of “traditional families” rather than the diversity curriculum they had previously prepared. The audio is not strong in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFCWUoXr1Dg&amp;feature=youtu.be&amp;t=1m4s this video], but it is a recording of Aileen Clyde speaking at a women’s conference at Claremont Graduate University in 2011, telling this story.<br /> <br /> Sister Okazaki also discussed how the General Relief Society presidency learned about the Proclamation when she sat down with Greg Prince in November, 2005. Prince captured that interview in the [https://www.dialoguejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/sbi/articles/Dialogue_V45N01_CO.pdf Spring 2012 issue of Dialogue]. As she recalled,<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;[I]n 1995 when “The Family: A Proclamation to the World” was written, the Relief Society presidency was asked to come to a meeting. We did, and they read this proclamation. It was all finished. The only question was whether they should present it at the priesthood meeting or at the Relief Society meeting. It didn’t matter to me where it was presented. What I wanted to know was, “How come we weren’t consulted?…<br /> They just asked us which meeting to present it in, and we said, “Whatever President Hinckley decides is fine with us.” He decided to do it at the Relief Society meeting. The apostle who was our liaison said, “Isn’t it wonderful that he made the choice to present it at the Relief Society meeting?” Well, that was fine, but as I read it I thought that we could have made a few changes in it.<br /> Sometimes I think they get so busy that they forget that we are there. (p. 136)&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> Back in Hawaii, legal work surrounding the Baehr case continued. This time, it was Baehr v. Miike and over the summer both the LDS Church and its political organization Hawaii’s Future Today filed amicus briefs for the lower court to consider. The lower court heard the case on September 10, 1996 and issued its ruling on December 3, 1996, finding that same-sex couples were entitled to receive marriage licenses.<br /> <br /> The case was again appealed to Hawaii’s Supreme Court and this time, on April 14, 1997, the LDS Church filed an [http://www.qrd.org/qrd/usa/legal/hawaii/baehr/1997/brief.mormons-04.14.97 amicus brief]&lt;ref&gt; Hawaii’s Future Today, the political group led by Mormons and Catholics, also submitted an [http://www.qrd.org/qrd/usa/legal/hawaii/baehr/1997/brief.hawaiis.future.today-03.16.97 amicus brief in this case on March 17, 1997] and on May 12, 1997, Utah joined [http://www.qrd.org/qrd/usa/legal/hawaii/baehr/1997/brief.11.states.joined.in.by.utah-05.12.97 an amicus brief filed by 11 other states as well].&lt;/ref&gt;. In this brief, the Church cited the Proclamation on the Family as evidence of the centrality of tradition marriage in Mormon doctrine and practice for the first time. One of the requirements for filing an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amicus_curiae amicus curiae], or “friend of the court” brief is that the petitioner submitting the brief must present to the court [https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frap/rule_29 valid reasons why the court should allow the petitioner, who is not a party to the case, to be heard on the matter]. Conveniently, the Proclamation ties all of the major family-related policies and teachings together in one place, making it easy to include as an exhibit in a legal brief. Two decades later, it has become quasi-scriptural for many Mormons, further confirming the notion that, [https://www.lds.org/topics/family-proclamation as it proclaims], “the family is central” not only to “the Creator’s plans” but also to Mormon religious beliefs and practices as well.<br /> In 1998, Hawaii’s legislature passed a constitutional amendment exempting same-sex marriage from sexual discrimination and noting that marriage in Hawaii would be between one man and one woman. LDS and Catholic lobbyists and political groups, working together under the banner Save Traditional Marriage ’98 (which grew out of the group, Hawaii’s Future Today, organized in late 1995) were influential in getting both the legal language and the grass-roots support for the amendment. When the Baehr appeal was finally heard again in 1999, same-sex marriage was found unconstitutional in Hawaii, and it remained so until December 2013.<br /> The Proclamation on the Family began its national political role when it was [http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-1995-11-17/pdf/CREC-1995-11-17-pt2-PgE2214.pdf read into the official records of the U.S. House of Representatives on November 17, 1995], four days after President Hinckley met with U.S. President Bill Clinton. It has been used in dozens of court cases, legislative sessions, hearings, and conventions in the United States and around the world wherever issues of same-sex marriage, gender roles, abortion, family values, or Defense of Marriage Acts have been brought up.&lt;ref&gt;Laura Compton, “From Amici to ‘Ohana: The Hawaiian Roots of the Family Proclamation” &lt;https://rationalfaiths.com/from-amici-to-ohana/&gt; (accessed 19 August 2019)&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> === Family Breakdown, the Welfare State, and the Family Proclamation: An Alternative History* (Written 1 August 2015)===<br /> <br /> [...]Rational Faiths has an enlightening and informative post on the origins of the Family Proclamation. She effectively demonstrates that the controversy surrounding Baehr v. Lewin–the first major victory for same-sex marriage proponents–gave birth to the quasi-canonical document. I do not dispute the influence of this legal case in the creation of the Proclamation. However, I do think there are other possible influences and contexts that helped mold its final shape. I hope to explore one of these possibilities below. [. . .]<br /> <br /> we remind ourselves what was happening during the mid-1980s through the mid-1990s in the American political climate. For the majority of the period we discuss, [the author's] description is apt: “Ezra Taft Benson was the prophet and titular leader of the LDS Church, but he was in ill health, to say the least. First Counselor Gordon B. Hinckley was the public spokesman in many places (a supportive role he continued throughout successor Howard W. Hunter’s administration until he became the new president of the Church on March 12, 1995). Boyd K. Packer was the Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles since Hinckley was serving in the First Presidency rather than the larger quorum.” Divorce and family breakdown had been addressed for decades by Church leadership, while President Benson had taken the lead over most of his apostolic career in attacking socialism and other related (at least in his view) systems such as the welfare state. Yet, this particular stretch saw the development of a political and social climate that was ripe for the creation and reception of a document like the Family Proclamation. However, this story&lt;ref&gt; The following narrative draws heavily from Chapter 1 of Mitch Pearlstein’s From Family Collapse to America’s Decline: The Educational, Economic, and Social Costs of Family Fragmentation (Lanham, MA: Rowman &amp; Littlefield Education, 2011).&lt;/ref&gt; begins a couple decades earlier with the writing of the (in)famous Moynihan Report by Democratic sociologist and then Assistant Secretary of Labor Daniel Patrick Moynihan in 1965.&lt;ref&gt; Officially “[http://web.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Moynihan's%20The%20Negro%20Family.pdf The Negro Family: The Case for National Action.]”&lt;/ref&gt; The report argued that the nation’s history of racism and slavery had led to the disintegration of the black nuclear family and exacerbated the problem of poverty among African-Americans. <br /> Though often [http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/04/what-the-left-and-right-both-get-wrong-about-the-moynihan-report/360701/ misunderstood] by both the Left and Right, Moynihan used surprisingly conservative frankness about family statistics to argue in favor of more liberal government policies geared toward boosting education and employment. Though published in early 1965, there was relatively little public discussion on the topic of family breakdown until the mid-1980s. Yet, academic research on family structure continued to grow. Then, in 1984, political scientist Charles Murray’s [http://www.amazon.com/Losing-Ground-American-Social-1950-1980/dp/0465065880/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1431797107&amp;sr=8-1&amp;keywords=losing+ground Losing Ground: American Social Policy, 1950-1980] burst on to the scene. Then a fellow at the Manhattan Institute, Murray argued that the U.S. welfare system created [http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/pdfs/behavioral.pdf perverse incentives] followed by rational, understandable responses. Some of the results, Murray believed, were the choices to remain unmarried and unemployed in order to continue receiving welfare benefits.&lt;ref&gt; It should be stressed again that Murray saw these responses to welfare benefits as rational. For example, “If Phyllis and Harry marry and he is employed, she will lose her AFDC benefits. His minimum wage job at the laundry will produce no more income than she can make [on welfare], and, not incidentally, he, not she, will have control of the check. In exchange for giving up this degree of independence, she gains no real security. Harold’s job is not nearly as stable as the welfare system” (Murray, Losing Ground, 160-161).&lt;/ref&gt; Murray’s statistical analyses were controversial, but highly influential in the years to come.<br /> <br /> The focus on family breakdown also increased in broader circles, thanks largely to Bill Moyers’ 1986 CBS documentary [http://www.nytimes.com/1986/01/25/arts/tv-cbs-reports-examines-black-families.html The Vanishing Family – Crisis in Black America]. While Murray could be dismissed due to his conservatism and easily marginalized to an obscure corner of academia, Moyers had strong liberal credentials thanks to his time as White House Press Secretary under Lyndon Johnson and his prolific career in journalism. The report allowed for a more open discussion among the masses on the subject of family breakdown. The documentary also highlighted the intertwining elements of work, family, and welfare. For example, when [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9BKXQ8ROlw&amp;t=25m45s Moyers interviewed one young man] who had fathered 6 children by 4 different women, he asked, “How do [your children] make it? Where do they get the money?” In response, the father answered, “Well, the majority of the mothers are on welfare. Welfare gives them their stipend for the month. So, what I’m not doing, the government does.” While the documentary aired in January, several General Authorities addressed welfare and its relation to family and work in the April conference of that year. “When we depart from the Lord’s way in caring for the poor,” [https://www.lds.org/ensign/1986/05/a-provident-plan-a-precious-promise?lang=eng said Thomas S. Monson] (then the Second Counselor in the First Presidency),<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;chaos comes. Said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Political Analysis, as reported this year in a Dallas, Texas, newspaper:<br /> <br /> “The USA’s welfare system is a disaster. It is creating poverty, not destroying it. It subsidizes divorce, unwed teenage pregnancy, the abandonment of elderly parents by their children, and the wholesale dissolution of the family. The reason? We pay people to be poor. Private charities have always been better at providing relief where it is truly needed.”<br /> <br /> In 1982 it was my privilege to serve as a member of President Ronald Reagan’s Task Force on Private Sector Initiatives. Meeting in the White House with prominent leaders assembled from throughout the nation, President Reagan paid tribute to the welfare program of the Church. He observed: “Elder Monson is here representing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. If, during the period of the Great Depression, every church had come forth with a welfare program founded on correct principles as his church did, we would not be in the difficulty in which we find ourselves today.” President Reagan praised self-sufficiency; lauded our storehouse, production, and distribution system; and emphasized family members assisting one another. He urged that in our need we turn not to government but rather to ourselves.&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> Presiding Bishop Robert D. Hales [https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1986/04/welfare-principles-to-guide-our-lives-an-eternal-plan-for-the-welfare-of-mens-souls?lang=eng stated] that both the rich and poor tend to “shut their hearts to…love and compassion. The rich languish in their abundance and justify turning the poor away as “welfare cases.” The poor are likewise entrapped, becoming dependent on others in a system destined to trample initiative, undermine family responsibility, foster divisiveness, and erect barriers to equity, opportunity, and fellowship. The Lord rejects such welfare programs.” Hales explained that the Church welfare program “requires that we develop self-reliance and live providently. Provident living requires us to develop proper attitudes—a willingness to forego luxuries, to avoid excess, and to fully use what we have—learning to live within our means.” Elder James E. Faust [https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1986/04/the-responsibility-for-welfare-rests-with-me-and-my-family?lang=eng declared] that one “bedrock principle” the saints must build upon “is that the responsibility for welfare rests with me and my family. In 1936 the First Presidency said in a great statement of purpose, “The aim of the Church is to help the people to help themselves.””<br /> <br /> The conversation about family breakdown began to find acceptance a few years later even among Democratic politicians with the influence of future Clinton adviser William Galston’s article “A Liberal-Democratic Case for the Two-Parent Family.”&lt;ref&gt; William A. Galston, “A Liberal-Democratic Case for the Two-Parent Family,” The Responsive Community 1:1 (Winter 1990-1991).&lt;/ref&gt; Galston’s paper has been identified as playing a key role “in persuading Democratic members (plus staffers) of the National Commission on Children, in 1991, to endorse unusually direct language on the importance of two-parent families. Similarly, if not the paper itself, then certainly Galston himself and his circle of colleagues, were influential in shaping candidate Bill Clinton’s successful 1992 campaign rhetoric about paternal responsibility and welfare reform, among other things. At root, “A Liberal-Democratic Case” gave essential and welcome cover to men and women on the left side of the continuum who had perhaps long shared the paper’s ideas, but who had been reluctant…to speak out.”&lt;ref&gt; Pearlstein, 2011, 11.&lt;/ref&gt; This same National Commission on Children acknowledged in 1991, “Children do best when they have the personal involvement and material support of a father and a mother and when both parents fulfill their responsibility to be loving providers.”&lt;ref&gt; Beyond Rhetoric: A New American Agenda for Children and Families: Final Report of the National Commission on Children (Washington, DC: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1991), xix.&lt;/ref&gt; During this time, the LDS Church’s welfare system was praised in the media by outlets such as the Heritage Foundation. “The Latter-day Saints Church has one of the most effective and compassionate welfare systems in the world,” affirmed conservative pundit Tucker Carlson in Policy Review. “It works because Mormons realize that welfare has the same properties as nitroglycerine: if utilized correctly it can heal and sustain. If used wantonly it will certainly destroy. The Mormon welfare system’s primary goal is not to provide material necessities for those in need, although it does accomplish this efficiently. It focuses instead on strengthening the family, teaching a vigorous work ethic, and helping the needy to help themselves. Its themes are ones the secular world would do well to study.”&lt;ref&gt; Tucker Carlson, “Holy Dolers: The Secular Lessons of Mormon Charity,” Policy Review 59 (Winter 1992): 25. Available from Business Source Complete. See also Chiung Hwang Chen, Ethan Yorgason, “”Those Amazing Mormons”: The Media’s Construction of Latter-day Saints as a Model Minority,” Dialogue: A Journal of Mormon Thought 32:2 (Summer 1999): 107-128.&lt;/ref&gt; Once again, the intersection of work, family, and welfare was highlighted.<br /> <br /> And, of course, there was Vice President Dan Quayle’s well-known 1992 “[http://livefromthetrail.com/about-the-book/speeches/chapter-18/vice-president-dan-quayle Murphy Brown speech]” in which he discussed “the breakdown of the family structure, personal responsibility and social order in too many areas of our society.” The speech earned its nickname from the single brief reference to the TV show Murphy Brown: “a character,” Quayle maintained, “who supposedly epitomizes today’s intelligent, highly paid professional woman, mocking the importance of fathers by bearing a child alone and calling it just another lifestyle choice.” The speech was met with ridicule from pundits and even uncertainty from the White House. However, the following year social scientist Barbara Dafoe Whitehead wrote her famous piece “[http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1993/04/dan-quayle-was-right/307015/ Dan Quayle Was Right]” in The Atlantic Monthly. Reviewing the scholarly literature from the past couple decades, Whitehead argued,<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;Taken together, the research presents a powerful challenge to the prevailing view of family change as social progress. Not a single one of the assumptions underlying that view can be sustained against the empirical evidence. Single-parent families are not able to do well economically on a mother’s income. In fact, most teeter on the economic brink, and many fall into poverty and welfare dependency. Growing up in a disrupted family does not enrich a child’s life or expand the number of adults committed to the child’s well-being. In fact, disrupted families threaten the psychological well-being of children and diminish the investment of adult time and money in them. Family diversity in the form of increasing numbers of single-parent and stepparent families does not strengthen the social fabric. It dramatically weakens and undermines society, placing new burdens on schools, courts, prisons, and the welfare system. These new families are not an improvement on the nuclear family, nor are they even just as good, whether you look at outcomes for children or outcomes for society as a whole. In short, far from representing social progress, family change represents a stunning example of social regress.&lt;ref&gt; See also Isabel Sawhill, “[https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/20-years-later-it-turns-out-dan-quayle-was-right-about-murphy-brown-and-unmarried-moms/2012/05/25/gJQAsNCJqU_story.html 20 Years Later, It Turns Out Dan Quayle Was Right About Murphy Brown and Unmarried Moms,]” The Washington Post (May 25, 2012).&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> Murray returned later that year with a WSJ article on the increasing illegitimacy among both whites and blacks:<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;Every once in a while the sky really is falling, and this seems to be the case with the latest national figures on illegitimacy. The unadorned statistic is that, in 1991, 1.2 million children were born to unmarried mothers, within a hair of 30% of all live births. How high is 30%? About four percentage points higher than the black illegitimacy rate in the early 1960s that motivated Daniel Patrick Moynihan to write his famous memorandum on the breakdown of the black family.<br /> <br /> The 1991 story for blacks is that illegitimacy has now reached 68% of births to black women. In inner cities, the figure is typically in excess of 80%. Many of us have heard these numbers so often that we are inured…But the black story, however dismaying, is old news. The new trend that threatens the U.S. is white illegitimacy. Matters have not yet quite gotten out of hand, but they are on the brink…In 1991, 707,502 babies were born to single white women, representing 22% of white births…As the spatial concentration of illegitimacy reaches critical mass, we should expect the deterioration to be as fast among low-income whites in the 1990s as it was among low-income blacks in the 1960s. My proposition is that illegitimacy is the single most important social problem of our time — more important than crime, drugs, poverty, illiteracy, welfare or homelessness because it drives everything else. Doing something about it is not just one more item on the American policy agenda, but should be at the top.&lt;ref&gt; Charles Murray, “The Coming White Underclass,” The Wall Street Journal (Oct. 29, 1993), A14. He expanded this research nearly 20 years later in Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010 (New York: Crown Forum, 2012).&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> That same month, President Hinckley (then called as the First Counselor in the First Presidency) lamented what he saw as the moral decline of the United States:<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;We in America are saddled with a huge financial deficit in our national budget. This has led to astronomical debt. But there is another deficit which, in its long-term implications, is more serious. It is a moral deficit, a decline in values in the lives of the people, which is sapping the very foundation of our society. It is serious in this land. And it is serious in every other nation of which I know. Some few months ago there appeared in the Wall Street Journal what was spoken of as an index of what is happening to our culture. I read from this statement: “Since 1960, the U.S. population has increased 41%; the gross domestic product has nearly tripled; and total social spending by all levels of government [has experienced] more than a fivefold increase…But during the same…period there has been a 560% increase in violent crime; a 419% increase in illegitimate births; a quadrupling in divorce rates; a tripling of the percentage of children living in single-parent homes; more than a 200% increase in the teenage suicide rate.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> The following two years saw the publication of [http://www.amazon.com/Growing-Up-With-Single-Parent/dp/0674364082 Growing Up With a Single Parent: What Hurts, What Helps] by sociologists Sara McLanahan and Gary Sandefur and [http://www.amazon.com/Fatherless-America-Confronting-Urgent-Problem/dp/006092683X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1438292122&amp;sr=1-1&amp;keywords=david+blankenhorn Fatherless America: Confronting Our Most Urgent Social Problem] by Institute for American Values founder David Blankenhorn. These two volumes further supported the idea that the two-parent household was the ideal environment for raising a child. General Authorities continued to bemoan the changing family dynamics within the country. In 1994, [https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1994/04/take-especial-care-of-your-family?lang=eng Elder Neal A. Maxwell spoke] of “several terrible trends which, if uncorrected, will produce an even worse coalition of consequences.” These trends included the fragmentation of family life:<br /> <br /> *In ten years, one-half of all children born in America will be illegitimate. <br /> *More and more children have no functioning fathers. Already 70 percent of our juvenile criminals come from fatherless homes. <br /> *Less than half of all children born today will live continuously with their own mother and father throughout childhood. <br /> These various trends in the public and political perception of welfare, work, and family breakdown eventually culminated in the passing of the 1996 Welfare Reform Act under President Clinton. As one author explains, “The federal government’s Healthy Marriage Initiative is best understood as the product of two major movements: one…in celebration and service of marriage itself; with a second, an integral part of the drive for welfare reform.”&lt;ref&gt; Pearlstein, 2011, 19.&lt;/ref&gt; According to welfare expert Ron Haskins, the issue of out-of-wedlock births began to rival the welfare state in the “Republican hierarchy of social ills.”&lt;ref&gt; Ron Haskins, Work Over Welfare: The Inside Story of the 1996 Welfare Reform Law (Washington, DC: Brookings Institution, 2006), 7. Quoted in Pearlstein, 2011, 20&lt;/ref&gt; Bill Clinton “had been more outspoken than any other president about the tragedy of illegitimacy; he was even given to stating flatly that it was “wrong” for young people to have children outside of marriage whom they could not support.”&lt;ref&gt; Ibid., 8.&lt;/ref&gt;Haskins contends that five major factors led to reform:&lt;ref&gt; Ron Haskins, “What Works Is Work: Welfare Reform and Poverty Reduction,” Northwestern Journal of Law &amp; Social Policy 4:1 (Winter 2009): 40-41.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> #The public did not approve of able-bodied people being supported on welfare for extended periods.<br /> #The 1988 welfare legislation increased welfare enrollment due to its generous benefits.<br /> #Experimental programs were shown to increase work and reduce welfare spending.<br /> #Part of Clinton’s campaign rhetoric was “ending welfare as we know it”: a very foreign concept for a Democratic presidential candidate.<br /> #Republicans won both houses of Congress in 1994, replacing the Democrats that were unwilling to back the strong work requirements in Clinton’s previous bill. Clinton vetoed the first two Republican bills, but finally passed a modified bill in 1996.<br /> It was within this context that the newly-minted President of the Church Gordon B. Hinckley revealed the Family Proclamation at the General Relief Society Meeting in October of 1995. President Hinckley [https://www.lds.org/general-conference/1995/10/stand-strong-against-the-wiles-of-the-world?lang=eng provided a grave background] for its introduction:&lt;ref&gt; The following month, President Hinckley and Elder Maxwell [http://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/articles/26152/White-house-visit--Pres-Clinton-meets-with-Pres-Hinckley-receives-his-six-generation-family-history.html visited President Clinton at the White House], presenting him with a copy of the Family Proclamation as well as “a volume containing six generations of his family history and another containing that of First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.” The conversation is said to have “covered a range of issues, including welfare, education and the need for parents to be actively involved in their children’s lives.” It was the following year that the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act was passed.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;How bitter are the fruits of casting aside standards of virtue. The statistics are appalling. More than one-fourth of all children born in the United States are born out of wedlock, and the situation grows more serious. Of the teens who give birth, 46 percent will go on welfare within four years; of unmarried teens who give birth, 73 percent will be on welfare within four years. I believe that it should be the blessing of every child to be born into a home where that child is welcomed, nurtured, loved, and blessed with parents, a father and a mother, who live with loyalty to one another and to their children. I am sure that none of you younger women want less than this. Stand strong against the wiles of the world…There are those who would have us believe in the validity of what they choose to call same-sex marriage. Our hearts reach out to those who struggle with feelings of affinity for the same gender. We remember you before the Lord, we sympathize with you, we regard you as our brothers and our sisters. However, we cannot condone immoral practices on your part any more than we can condone immoral practices on the part of others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> Here, welfare and family breakdown are put side-by-side with same-sex marriage. While [https://www.lds.org/topics/family-proclamation?lang=eng the Proclamation] dedicates considerable space to heteronormative marriage and gender essentialism, it also focuses on the rearing of children: “Parents have a sacred duty to rear their children in love and righteousness, to provide for their physical and spiritual needs, and to teach them to love and serve one another, observe the commandments of God, and be law-abiding citizens wherever they live. Husbands and wives—mothers and fathers—will be held accountable before God for the discharge of these obligations…Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity” (italics mine). The portion on father/mother responsibilities is typically interpreted as a mere restatement of traditional (or outdated) gender roles. However, the concept that “fathers are to preside over their families…and are responsible to provide the necessities of life and protection for their families” may stem from the political and public discussions revolving around fatherless families and welfare-dependent mothers (recall the absent father from Moyers’ documentary). “Work” is listed among multiple “principles” upon which “successful families and marriages are established…” On an even more dire note, the Proclamation warns “that individuals who violate covenants of chastity, who abuse spouse or offspring, or who fail to fulfill family responsibilities will one day stand accountable before God” (italics mine). The language surrounding parental responsibility and specifically working, present, faithful fathers fits quite well into the national politics of the day. Statements similar to the Proclamation’s final line could be pulled from any of the above cited works: “We call upon responsible citizens and officers of government everywhere to promote those measures designed to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.” From Murray to Moyers to Whitehead to Clinton, concern over welfare dependence and family breakdown had been growing among General Authorities and the public at large. While same-sex marriage legalities most definitely played a leading role in the Proclamation’s conception, I think it is safe to say that the American discussion regarding family fragmentation (especially fatherlessness) and welfare dependency also paved the way for it and helped shape its final draft.&lt;ref&gt;Walker Wright, “Family Breakdown, the Welfare State, and the Family Proclamation: An Alternative History*” &lt;http://www.withoutend.org/family-proclamation-alternative-history/&gt; (accessed 19 August 2019). Wright notes that the title may be misleading and that “complementary” may be better than “alternative”&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> --&gt;<br /> ===Boyd K. Packer gives additional context===<br /> <br /> Boyd K. Packer gave further context to the Proclamation’s Origin:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt; The First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve issued a proclamation on the family. I can tell you how that came about. They had a world conference on the family sponsored by the United Nations in Beijing, China. We sent representatives. It was not pleasant what they heard. They called another one in Cairo. Some of our people were there. I read the proceedings of that. The word marriage was not mentioned. It was at a conference on the family, but marriage was not even mentioned.<br /> <br /> It was then they announced that they were going to have such a conference here in Salt Lake City. Some of us made the recommendation: &quot;They are coming here. We had better proclaim our position.”&lt;ref&gt; Boyd K. Packer, &quot;[http://speeches.byu.edu/index.php?act=viewitem&amp;id=180 The Instrument of Your Mind and the Foundation of Your Character,]&quot; CES Fireside (2 February 2003).&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> ===The doctrines have long been taught by the Church===<br /> The doctrines contained within the Proclamation are doctrines long taught by the Church. We [[Question: Have the doctrines in the Mormon document &quot;The Family: A Proclamation to the World&quot; long been taught in the Church?| address this]] elsewhere on the wiki.<br /> <br /> ===Many of the revelations in the Doctrine and Covenants started out as similar documents===<br /> Some sections of the Doctrine and Covenants started out as (1) council minutes, (2) official statements of church policy written by lawyers like Oliver Cowdery, (3) letters written by Joseph Smith, (4) excerpts from peoples’ notes recording things that Joseph Smith taught. Examples include D&amp;C 130 and 134. More may be found by reading the [https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/title-page?clang=eng&amp;lang=eng headings of the revelations].<br /> Those who are bothered by a revelation or doctrinal disquisition being first drafted by others may be comforted knowing that many revelations have been ratified in similar ways.<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: /* Question: Why is the &quot;Ass&quot; (Donkey) mentioned in the Book of Mormon? */</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Question: Why is the &quot;Ass&quot; (Donkey) mentioned in the Book of Mormon?==<br /> ===The only clue to the role of the &quot;ass&quot; in Nephite society is a reference those in bondage bearing of their burdens like &quot;a dumb ass&quot;===<br /> [[Image:Tapir.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Brazilian Tapir (wikipedia.com)]]<br /> <br /> The only clue to the role of the &quot;ass&quot; in Nephite society comes from {{s||Mosiah|12|5}} and {{s||Mosiah|21|3}}, in which those in bondage bear burdens like &quot;a dumb ass.&quot;<br /> <br /> Other mentions occur in {{s|1|Nephi|18|25}}, {{s||Mosiah|5|14}} and {{s||Ether|9|19}}, while {{s||Mosiah|13|24}} is a quotation of the Ten Commandments.<br /> <br /> &quot;Ass&quot; has been suggested as a loanshift for the tapir, which many have described in decidedly horse-like terms. &lt;ref&gt; &quot;Horses in the Book of Mormon&quot; (Provo: Utah, FARMS, 2000).{{link|url=http://publications.mi.byu.edu/fullscreen/?pub=1055&amp;index=1}}&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;See, for example, the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'', 1911 edition for [http://87.1911encyclopedia.org/H/HO/HORSE.htm horse].&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In addition, some modern tapir enthusiasts indicate that tapirs are likely unsuitable for raising in herds (not being herd animals, they tend to fight), but [P]eople in the tapirs' native countries will keep individuals to fatten them up for food, though...some<br /> are pretty tame and others can be extremely dangerous...They're big, heavy and strong, have powerful jaws and teeth, and they can move very fast.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;Sheryl Todd, &quot;The Tapir Gallery, the Tapir Preservation Fund,&quot; Tapir Gallery archive (7 May 1997, 14:03:06 -6h00), (last accessed 22 October 2005) {{link|url=http://www.tapirback.com/tapirgal/archives/970507.htm}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> A modern government report indicates that<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> The tapir is docile toward man and hence management of the animal is relatively easy. An indigenous person describes the tapir as follows: &quot;The animal is very sociable. Taken as a pup, one can easily tame it; it knows how to behave near the house; it goes to eat in the mountain and then returns to sleep near the house.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;Joseph Henry Vogel, &quot;White paper: The Successful Use of Economic Instruments to Foster Sustainable Use of Biodiversity: Six Case Studies from Latin America and the Caribbean,&quot; ''Biopolicy Journal'', Vol. 2, Paper 5 (PY97005), 1997.{{link|url=http://www.puce.edu.ec/Investigacion/fatima/Whitep.htm}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> <br /> It would seem that at least a limited role for the tapir is not out of the question, either as a food source (tapirs make up between 7-10% of the diet in rural Amazonia)&lt;ref&gt;''OAS.org'' {{link|url=http://www.oas.org/osde/publications/Unit/oea37e/ch09.htm#wildlife%20exploitation:%20goods}} (last accessed 22 October 2005).&lt;/ref&gt; or as a potential beast of burden on a small scale (given their strength). Charles Darwin even noted that tapirs were kept tame in the Americas, though they did not tend to breed in captivity. &lt;ref&gt;Charles Darwin, ''The Variation of Plants and Animals Under Domestication'', Vol. 2, (1868), 86.{{link|url=http://charles-darwin.classic-literature.co.uk/variation-of-animals-and-plants-under-domestication-v2/ebook-page-86.asp}} &lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> [[Category:Difficult Questions for Mormons]]<br /> <br /> [[pt:Pergunta: Por que é o Jumento mencionado no Livro de Mórmon?]]<br /> [[es:Pregunta: ¿Por qué se menciona el &quot;asno&quot; (burro) en el Libro de Mormón?]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: </p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Question: Does the &quot;White Horse Prophecy&quot; imply that &quot;Mormons&quot; encourage support for some candidates over others?==<br /> ===The Church has disavowed any belief in the validity of the so-called White Horse prophecy===<br /> <br /> The Church has disavowed any belief in the validity of the so-called White Horse prophecy, and the prophecy's authenticity is suspicious on numerous historical grounds.<br /> <br /> In December 2009, Church Public Affairs released a statement which read:<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is politically neutral and does not endorse or promote any candidate, party or platform. Accordingly, we hope that the campaign practices of political candidates would not suggest that their candidacy is supported by or connected to the church.<br /> <br /> &quot;The so-called 'White Horse Prophecy' is based on accounts that have not been substantiated by historical research and is not embraced as Church doctrine. &lt;ref&gt;Kim Farrah, spokeswoman for LDS public affairs, cited in &quot;[https://www.rexburgstandardjournal.com/news/lds-church-issues-statement-on-rex-rammell/article_ad0674be-53ce-55e4-aad6-c070e10ab848.html LDS Church issues statement on Rex Rammell ],&quot; ''Rexburg Standard Journal'' (17h21, 24 December 2009).&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> [[es:Pregunta: ¿La &quot;Profecía del Caballo Blanco&quot; implica que los &quot;mormones&quot; alientan el apoyo para algunos candidatos sobre otros?]]<br /> [[fi:Kysymys: Vihjaako “valkoisen hevosen profetia” kirkon tukevan joitakin kanditaatteja enemmän kuin toisia?]]<br /> [[Category:One Nation Under Gods]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: </p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Question: Does the &quot;White Horse Prophecy&quot; imply that &quot;Mormons&quot; encourage support for some candidates over others?==<br /> ===The Church has disavowed any belief in the validity of the so-called White Horse prophecy===<br /> <br /> The Church has disavowed any belief in the validity of the so-called White Horse prophecy, and the prophecy's authenticity is suspicious on numerous historical grounds.<br /> <br /> In December 2009, Church Public Affairs released a statement which read:<br /> <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is politically neutral and does not endorse or promote any candidate, party or platform. Accordingly, we hope that the campaign practices of political candidates would not suggest that their candidacy is supported by or connected to the church.<br /> <br /> &quot;The so-called 'White Horse Prophecy' is based on accounts that have not been substantiated by historical research and is not embraced as Church doctrine. &lt;ref&gt;Kim Farrah, spokeswoman for LDS public affairs, cited in &quot;[https://www.rexburgstandardjournal.com/news/lds-church-issues-statement-on-rex-rammell/article_ad0674be-53ce-55e4-aad6-c070e10ab848.html],&quot; ''Rexburg Standard Journal'' (17h21, 24 December 2009).&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> [[es:Pregunta: ¿La &quot;Profecía del Caballo Blanco&quot; implica que los &quot;mormones&quot; alientan el apoyo para algunos candidatos sobre otros?]]<br /> [[fi:Kysymys: Vihjaako “valkoisen hevosen profetia” kirkon tukevan joitakin kanditaatteja enemmän kuin toisia?]]<br /> [[Category:One Nation Under Gods]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: </p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}} <br /> {{H1<br /> |L=Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Twentieth century<br /> |H=Twentieth Century statements about Book of Mormon geography: 1900-1999<br /> |A=Various<br /> |T=Statements about Book of Mormon geography<br /> |&lt;=[[Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Nineteenth century/After Joseph's death|After Joseph's death]]<br /> |&gt;=[[Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Twenty-first century|Twenty-first century]]<br /> }}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{H2<br /> |L=Book of Mormon/Geography/Statements/Twentieth century<br /> |H=Twentieth Century statements about Book of Mormon geography: 1900-1999<br /> |S=<br /> |L1=B.H. Roberts: &quot;we need not be surprised if we sometimes find them mistaken in their conceptions and deductions&quot;<br /> |L2=Joseph F. Smith (25 May 1903): &quot;the question of the situation of the city (of Zarahemla) was one of interest certainly, but if it could not be located the matter was not of vital importance&quot;<br /> |L3=Joseph F. Smith (circa 1918): &quot;President Smith declined to officially approve of the map, saying that the Lord had not yet revealed it&quot;<br /> |L4=George F. Richards (1922): &quot;The land of North and South America is a very much favored portion of our Father's footstool&quot;<br /> |L5=Anthony W. Ivins (Apr 1929): &quot;Where was the land of Zarahemla? Where was the City of Zarahemla?...There has never been anything yet set forth that definitely settles that question&quot;<br /> |L6=James E. Talmage (Apr 1929): &quot;the Book of Mormon does not give us precise and definite information whereby we can locate those places with certainty&quot;<br /> |L7=Melvin J. Ballard (Apr 1930): &quot;We were made to know that the Gospel message would find thousands who had the blood of Israel in their veins in South America&quot;<br /> |L8=Heber J. Grant (1937): &quot;I am a firm believer that this country, both North and South America, is the choice land of the world&quot;<br /> |L9=LDS Department of Education Study Manual (1938): &quot;the Book of Mormon deals only with the history and expansion of three small colonies which came to America and it does not deny or disprove the possibility of other immigrations&quot;<br /> |L10=Question: Did Joseph Fielding Smith reject the theory that the final battlefield of the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica rather than New York?<br /> |L11=Melvin J. Ballard (Apr 1938): &quot;for these millions who are in Mexico, Central America and South America their day must come&quot;<br /> |L12=Washburn and Washburn (1939), An Approach to the Study of Book of Mormon Geography: Book cover<br /> |L13=J. Reuben Clark (1940): &quot;Thus the hemisphere – Zion in its full area –was becoming “a land of liberty&quot;<br /> |L14=LDS Department of Education Study Manual (1940): &quot;There is a tendency to use the Book of Mormon as a complete history of all pre-Columbian peoples...The book does not give an history of all peoples who came to America before Columbus&quot;<br /> |L15=George Albert Smith (Oct 1940): &quot;They will find that it contains, in addition to what the Bible has told us about the world, what the Lord has said about this Western Hemisphere&quot;<br /> |L16=David O. McKay (1843): &quot;and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago&quot;<br /> |L17=Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1955): &quot;the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America&quot;<br /> |L18=Lowell T. Bennion (Sunday School - 1955): &quot;The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere&quot;<br /> |L19=Harold B. Lee (11 Nov 1959) &quot;it seems all are in agreement that the followers of Lehi came to the western shores of South America&quot;<br /> |L20=Mark E. Peterson (1982): &quot;Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography&quot;<br /> |L21=Dallin H. Oaks (29 Oct 1993): &quot;the Book of Mormon is not a history of all of the people who have lived on the continents of North and South America&quot;<br /> |L22=John A. Widtsoe (Jul 1950): &quot;under the Prophet's editorship Central America was denominated the region of Book of Mormon activities&quot;<br /> |L23=Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1960 and Oct 1962): &quot;This is a choice land - - all of America&quot;<br /> |L24=Marion G. Romney (6 Apr 1963): &quot;I have for the past two years been supervising the Latin American missions...the Lamanites, many of whom live in these missions&quot;<br /> |L25=Harold B. Lee (8 Jul 1966): &quot;if the Lord wanted us to know where it was, or where Zarahemla was, he’d have given us latitude and longitude, don’t you think?&quot;<br /> |L26=BYU Master's Thesis (Aug 1968): Uses Mesoamerica as presumptive culture source for costumes destined for a Book of Mormon re-enactments<br /> |L27=Paul R. Cheesman (Nov 1968): &quot;There are those who believe that there are two Hill Cumorahs...Advocates of this theory establish their analysis primarily from the internal evidences of the Book of Mormon&quot;<br /> |L28=Ezra Taft Benson (1972): &quot;I wish that every person in my country, in your country, in all of the Americas on this entire continent would read the Book of Mormon, and in it the prophetic history of these lands&quot;<br /> |L29=Marion G. Romney (1975): &quot;As the conflict intensified, all the people who had not been slain—men...gathered about that hill Cumorah&quot;<br /> |L30=Spencer W. Kimball (Feb 1977): &quot;There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America&quot;<br /> |L31=Hugh Nibley (1978): &quot;one tragically short-lived religious civilization that once flourished in Mesoamerica and then vanished toward the northeast in the course&quot;<br /> |L32=Ezra Taft Benson (Jan 1979): &quot;God raised up wise leaders among your progenitors which afforded Latin American countries political freedom and independence&quot;<br /> |L33=Ezra Taft Benson (Dec 1980): &quot;wise and inspired men in North, Central, and South America were raised up who proclaimed the sovereign truth that all men&quot;<br /> |L34=Hugh Nibley (19 Aug 1983): &quot;All this took place in Central America&quot;<br /> |L35=John Sorenson, Ensign (1984): &quot;the immediate land covered by the book’s events was probably only hundreds rather than thousands of miles long and wide&quot;<br /> |L36=Neal A. Maxwell (1986): &quot;Whether located in Meso–America or elsewhere, they were one people among many peoples on this planet and perhaps even on the western hemisphere&quot;<br /> |L37=Question: Did the First Presidency identify the New York &quot;Hill Cumorah&quot; as the site of the Nephite final battles?<br /> |L38=Encyclopedia of Mormonism (1992): &quot;The Church has not taken an official position with regard to location of geographical places&quot;<br /> }}<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> <br /> {{:B.H. Roberts: &quot;we need not be surprised if we sometimes find them mistaken in their conceptions and deductions&quot;}}<br /> {{:Joseph F. Smith (25 May 1903): &quot;the question of the situation of the city (of Zarahemla) was one of interest certainly, but if it could not be located the matter was not of vital importance&quot;}}<br /> {{:Joseph F. Smith (circa 1918): &quot;President Smith declined to officially approve of the map, saying that the Lord had not yet revealed it&quot;}}<br /> {{:George F. Richards (1922): &quot;The land of North and South America is a very much favored portion of our Father's footstool&quot;}}<br /> {{:Anthony W. Ivins (Apr 1929): &quot;Where was the land of Zarahemla? Where was the City of Zarahemla?...There has never been anything yet set forth that definitely settles that question&quot;}}<br /> {{:James E. Talmage (Apr 1929): &quot;the Book of Mormon does not give us precise and definite information whereby we can locate those places with certainty&quot;}}<br /> {{:Melvin J. Ballard (Apr 1930): &quot;We were made to know that the Gospel message would find thousands who had the blood of Israel in their veins in South America&quot;}}<br /> {{:Heber J. Grant (1937): &quot;I am a firm believer that this country, both North and South America, is the choice land of the world&quot;}}<br /> {{:LDS Department of Education Study Manual (1938): &quot;the Book of Mormon deals only with the history and expansion of three small colonies which came to America and it does not deny or disprove the possibility of other immigrations&quot;}}<br /> {{:Question: Did Joseph Fielding Smith reject the theory that the final battlefield of the Book of Mormon took place in Mesoamerica rather than New York?}}<br /> {{:Melvin J. Ballard (Apr 1938): &quot;for these millions who are in Mexico, Central America and South America their day must come&quot;}}<br /> {{:Washburn and Washburn (1939), An Approach to the Study of Book of Mormon Geography: Book cover}}<br /> {{:J. Reuben Clark (1940): &quot;Thus the hemisphere – Zion in its full area –was becoming “a land of liberty&quot;}}<br /> {{:LDS Department of Education Study Manual (1940): &quot;There is a tendency to use the Book of Mormon as a complete history of all pre-Columbian peoples...The book does not give an history of all peoples who came to America before Columbus&quot;}}<br /> {{:George Albert Smith (Oct 1940): &quot;They will find that it contains, in addition to what the Bible has told us about the world, what the Lord has said about this Western Hemisphere&quot;}}<br /> {{:David O. McKay (1843): &quot;and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago&quot;}}<br /> {{:Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1955): &quot;the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America&quot;}}<br /> {{:Lowell T. Bennion (Sunday School - 1955): &quot;The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere&quot;}}<br /> {{:Harold B. Lee (11 Nov 1959) &quot;it seems all are in agreement that the followers of Lehi came to the western shores of South America&quot;}}<br /> {{:Mark E. Peterson (1982): &quot;Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography&quot;}}<br /> {{:Dallin H. Oaks (29 Oct 1993): &quot;the Book of Mormon is not a history of all of the people who have lived on the continents of North and South America&quot;}}<br /> {{:John A. Widtsoe (Jul 1950): &quot;under the Prophet's editorship Central America was denominated the region of Book of Mormon activities&quot;}}<br /> {{:Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1960 and Oct 1962): &quot;This is a choice land - - all of America&quot;}}<br /> {{:Marion G. Romney (6 Apr 1963): &quot;I have for the past two years been supervising the Latin American missions...the Lamanites, many of whom live in these missions&quot;}}<br /> {{:Harold B. Lee (8 Jul 1966): &quot;if the Lord wanted us to know where it was, or where Zarahemla was, he’d have given us latitude and longitude, don’t you think?&quot;}}<br /> {{:BYU Master's Thesis (Aug 1968): Uses Mesoamerica as presumptive culture source for costumes destined for a Book of Mormon re-enactments}}<br /> {{:Paul R. Cheesman (Nov 1968): &quot;There are those who believe that there are two Hill Cumorahs...Advocates of this theory establish their analysis primarily from the internal evidences of the Book of Mormon&quot;}}<br /> {{:Ezra Taft Benson (1972): &quot;I wish that every person in my country, in your country, in all of the Americas on this entire continent would read the Book of Mormon, and in it the prophetic history of these lands&quot;}}<br /> {{:Marion G. Romney (1975): &quot;As the conflict intensified, all the people who had not been slain—men...gathered about that hill Cumorah&quot;}}<br /> {{:Spencer W. Kimball (Feb 1977): &quot;There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America&quot;}}<br /> {{:Hugh Nibley (1978): &quot;one tragically short-lived religious civilization that once flourished in Mesoamerica and then vanished toward the northeast in the course&quot;}}<br /> {{:Ezra Taft Benson (Jan 1979): &quot;God raised up wise leaders among your progenitors which afforded Latin American countries political freedom and independence&quot;}}<br /> {{:Ezra Taft Benson (Dec 1980): &quot;wise and inspired men in North, Central, and South America were raised up who proclaimed the sovereign truth that all men&quot;}}<br /> {{:Hugh Nibley (19 Aug 1983): &quot;All this took place in Central America&quot;}}<br /> {{:John Sorenson, Ensign (1984): &quot;the immediate land covered by the book’s events was probably only hundreds rather than thousands of miles long and wide&quot;}}<br /> {{:Neal A. Maxwell (1986): &quot;Whether located in Meso–America or elsewhere, they were one people among many peoples on this planet and perhaps even on the western hemisphere&quot;}}<br /> {{:Question: Did the First Presidency identify the New York &quot;Hill Cumorah&quot; as the site of the Nephite final battles?}}<br /> {{:Encyclopedia of Mormonism (1992): &quot;The Church has not taken an official position with regard to location of geographical places&quot;}}<br /> <br /> * {{FR-1-1-7}}&lt;!--Clark--&gt;<br /> * {{FR-1-1-8}}&lt;!--Hamblin--&gt;<br /> * {{FR-1-1-14}}&lt;!-- Sorenson--&gt;<br /> * {{FR-1-1-9}}&lt;!-- Withers--&gt;* {{JBMS-1-1-2}}<br /> * {{JBMS-2-1-11}}<br /> * {{FR-2-1-25}}<br /> * {{FR-6-1-10}}<br /> * {{FR-9-1-15}}<br /> <br /> {{SeeAlso|Book_of_Mormon/Geography/Statements/Twentieth_century/First_Presidency_Letter|l1=Did the First Presidency identify the New York &quot;Hill Cumorah&quot; as the site of the Nephite final battles?}}<br /> <br /> {{CriticalSources}}<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:O Livro de Mórmon/Geografia/Demonstrações/Século XX]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Ezra Taft Benson:Jan 1979:God raised up wise leaders among your progenitors which afforded Latin American countries political freedom and independence to [[Ezra Taft Benson (Jan 1979): &quot;God raised up wise leaders am...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Ezra Taft Benson (Jan 1979): &quot;God raised up wise leaders among your progenitors which afforded Latin American countries political freedom and independence&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> God raised up wise leaders among your progenitors which afforded Latin American countries political freedom and independence. I only mention the names of a few whom God raised up to accomplish His holy and Sovereign purposes: Jose de San Martin, Bernardo O’Higgins, and Simon Bolivar. These were some of the `founding fathers of your continent. I believe it was very significant that when independence came to the countries of South America, governments were established on constitutional principles–some patterned after the Constitution of the United States. I believe this was a very necessary step which preceded the preaching of the gospel in South America.&lt;ref&gt;Ezra Taft Benson, “The Righteous Need not Fear,” La Paz, Bolivia, 10-18 January 1979, in {{Book:Benson:Teachings|pages=695}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Ezra Taft Benson:Jan 1979:Deus levantou líderes sábios entre os seus progenitores, o que originou países da América Latina liberdade e independência política]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Hugh Nibley:1978:one tragically short-lived religious civilization that once flourished in Mesoamerica and then vanished toward the northeast in the course to [[Hugh Nibley (1978): &quot;one tragically short-lived religi...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Hugh Nibley (1978): &quot;one tragically short-lived religious civilization that once flourished in Mesoamerica and then vanished toward the northeast in the course&quot;==<br /> In a reprint of an article written in 1967, Nibley added:<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> The overall picture reflects before all a limited geographical and cultural point of view--small localized operations, with only occasional flights and expeditions into the wilderness; one might almost be moving in the cultural circuit of the Hopi villages. The focusing of the whole account on religious themes as well as the limited cultural scope leaves all the rest of the stage clear for any other activities that might have been going on in the vast reaches of the New World, including the hypothetical Norsemen, Celts, Phoenicians, Libyans, or prehistoric infiltrations via the Bering Straits. Indeed, the more varied the ancient American scene becomes, as newly discovered populations of Near Eastern, Far Eastern, and European origin, the more hospitable it is to the activities of one tragically short-lived religious civilization that once flourished in Mesoamerica and then vanished toward the northeast in the course of a series of confused tribal wars that was one long, drawn-out retreat into oblivion.&lt;ref&gt;&quot;The Mormon View of the Book of Mormon&quot; in ''Concilium: An International Review of Theology'' 10 (December 1967): 82–83; in ''Concilium: Theology in the Age of Renewal'' 30 (1968): 170–73; and in French, Portuguese, and German editions of this journal. It was reprinted in ''Nibley on the Timely and the Timeless'' (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1978), 149–53, under the title &quot;The Book of Mormon: A Minimal Statement,&quot; with the text from which this segment is cited as a postscript. It was most recently republished in {{JBMRS-19-1-8}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Hugh Nibley:1978:uma civilização religiosa tragicamente curta duração que uma vez floresceu na América Central e, em seguida, desapareceu em direção ao nordeste, no decurso]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Spencer W. Kimball:Feb 1977:There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America to Spencer W. Kimball (Feb 1977): &quot;There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Spencer W. Kimball (Feb 1977): &quot;There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America&quot;==<br /> Spencer W. Kimball in Mexico, 1977,<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> [p. 2] Columbus discovered America in 1492. After him came many colonizers and explorers. The Puritans and Pilgrims came from Europe . . . . For four hundred years the Lamanites were scattered throughout the Americas. Cortes came here, and Pizzaro went to South America. They had great influence upon the people. They scattered them and persecuted them....<br /> <br /> [3] One of the first efforts of the Prophet Joseph Smith was to take the gospel to the Lamanites. Continuing until now, we have preached the gospel to the Lamanites. There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America. They are happy for the gospel as it comes to them. . . . In many natural resources, the land of America is rich and will produce abundantly. This is for you, for us, and for all the good people who live upon the land of America. Protection against enemies has been promised. In all the Americas, neither kings nor emperors will combine to take the land. Great promises are given us, if we live the commandments God has given us....<br /> <br /> One of the first efforts of the Prophet Joseph Smith was to take the gospel to the Lamanites. Continuing until now, we have preached the gospel to the Lamanites. There are probably sixty million Lamanites in America. They are happy for the gospel as it come to them. . . . In many natural resources, the land of America is rich and will produce abundantly. This is for you, for us, and for all the good people who live upon the land of America. Protection against enemies has been promised. In all the Americas, neither kings nor emperors will combine to take the land. Great promises are given us, if we live the commandments God has given us.&lt;ref&gt;Spencer W. Kimball, ''Official Reports of the Monterrey Mexico Area Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, held in Monterrey, Mexico February 19 and 20, 1977'', (Salt Lake City: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1978), 2-3.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Spencer W. Kimball:Fev 1977:Há provavelmente sessenta milhões de lamanitas da América]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Marion G. Romney:1975:As the conflict intensified, all the people who had not been slain—men...gathered about that hill Cumorah to [[Marion G. Romney (1975): &quot;As the conflict intensified, all the people who had no...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Marion G. Romney (1975): &quot;As the conflict intensified, all the people who had not been slain—men...gathered about that hill Cumorah&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> In the western part of the state of New York near Palmyra is a prominent hill known as the “hill Cumorah.” (Morm. 6:6.) On July twenty-fifth of this year, as I stood on the crest of that hill admiring with awe the breathtaking panorama which stretched out before me on every hand, my mind reverted to the events which occurred in that vicinity some twenty-five centuries ago—events which brought to an end the great Jaredite nation.<br /> <br /> You who are acquainted with the Book of Mormon will recall that during the final campaign of the fratricidal war between the armies led by Shiz and those led by Coriantumr “nearly two millions” of Coriantumr’s people had been slain by the sword; “two millions of mighty men, and also their wives and their children.” (Ether 15:2.)<br /> <br /> As the conflict intensified, all the people who had not been slain—men “with their wives and their children” (Ether 15:15)—gathered about that hill Cumorah (see Ether 15:11). {{read more|url=https://www.lds.org/ensign/1975/11/americas-destiny?lang=eng}} &lt;ref&gt;Marion G. Romney, &quot;America’s Destiny,&quot; ''Ensign'' (Nov 1975).&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Ezra Taft Benson:1972:I wish that every person in my country, in your country, in all of the Americas on this entire continent would read the Book of Mormon, and in it the prophetic history of these lands to [[Ezra...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Ezra Taft Benson (1972): &quot;I wish that every person in my country, in your country, in all of the Americas on this entire continent would read the Book of Mormon, and in it the prophetic history of these lands&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> It should be comforting to all Latter-day Saints that the Lord has given great promises in that sacred volume, the Book of Mormon, promises that should give us comfort and assurance on the condition that we live the gospel. How I wish that every person in my country, in your country, in all of the Americas on this entire continent would read the Book of Mormon, and in it the prophetic history of these lands and the clear warnings for the future. Read what Father Lehi said in 2 Nephi 1:6-8. Read what his son Jacob said in 2 Nephi 10:10-14. Read also 1 Nephi 22:17 . . . . But we must also keep in mind the warning of the Brother of Jared in the second chapter of Ether, verses 9 and 10 . . . . Then in the twelfth verse. My beloved brethren and sisters, these things are true.&lt;ref&gt;Ezra Taft Benson, ''Official Report of the First Mexico and Central America Area General Conference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints held in the National Auditorium Chapultepec Park in Mexico City, Mexico August 25, 26, 27, 1972'' (Salt Lake City: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1972), 131.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Ezra Taft Benson:1972:Eu desejo que cada pessoa no meu país, em seu país, em todas as Américas sobre todo este continente iria ler o Livro de Mórmon, e nela a história profética dessas terras]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Paul R. Cheesman:Nov 1968:There are those who believe that there are two Hill Cumorahs...Advocates of this theory establish their analysis primarily from the internal evidences of the Book of Mormon to [[Paul R. Che...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Paul R. Cheesman (Nov 1968): &quot;There are those who believe that there are two Hill Cumorahs...Advocates of this theory establish their analysis primarily from the internal evidences of the Book of Mormon&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> There are those who believe that there are two Hill Cumorahs. Their theory is that the hill on which Mormon fought the last battle with the Lamanites is not the same hill in which Joseph Smith found the gold plates. Advocates of this theory establish their analysis primarily from the internal evidences of the Book of Mormon. Others conclude that there is only one Hill Cumorah, and that the place where Joseph Smith and Moroni met was the same place Mormon and Moroni visited in the fifth century. There is no official Church view.&lt;ref&gt;Paul R. Cheesman, &quot;Archaeology and the Book of Mormon,&quot; ''The Instructor,'' Vol. 103, No. 11 (November 1968): 429.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Paul R. Cheesman:Nov 1968:Há aqueles que acreditam que há dois Colina Cumôras ... Os defensores desta teoria estabelecer a sua análise, principalmente a partir das evidências internas do Livro de Mórmon]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:BYU Master&#039;s Thesis:Aug 1968:Uses Mesoamerica as presumptive culture source for costumes destined for a Book of Mormon re-enactments to [[BYU Master&#039;s Thesis (Aug 1968): Uses Mesoamerica as presumptive culture sourc...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==BYU Master's Thesis (Aug 1968): Uses Mesoamerica as presumptive culture source for costumes destined for a Book of Mormon re-enactments==<br /> '''BYU Master's Thesis''' for an August 1968 Speech and Dramatic Arts department uses Mesoamerica as presumptive culture source for costumes destined for a Book of Mormon re-enactments.<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> Amanda J. Brown, &quot;A Design Study in Costume for Projected Dramatic Productions Prescribing a Book of Mormon Setting Identified Herein as Late Preclassic Mesoamerican Culture,&quot; Master's Thesis, Department of Speech and Dramatic Arts (August 1968). {{link|url=http://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/cgi-bin/showfile.exe?CISOROOT=/MTAF&amp;CISOPTR=13750&amp;filename=13751.pdf}}<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:BYU Master's Thesis:Ago 1968:Usa Mesoamérica como fonte de cultura presuntivo para trajes destinados a um Livro de Mórmon recriações]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Harold B. Lee:8 Jul 1966:if the Lord wanted us to know where it was, or where Zarahemla was, he’d have given us latitude and longitude, don’t you think? to [[Harold B. Lee (8 Jul 1966): &quot;if the Lord wanted us to...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Harold B. Lee (8 Jul 1966): &quot;if the Lord wanted us to know where it was, or where Zarahemla was, he’d have given us latitude and longitude, don’t you think?&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> Some say the Hill Cumorah was in southern Mexico (and someone pushed it down still farther) and not in western New York. Well, if the Lord wanted us to know where it was, or where Zarahemla was, he’d have given us latitude and longitude, don’t you think? And why bother our heads trying to discover with archaeological certainty the geographical locations of the cities of the Book of Mormon like Zarahemla?&lt;Ref&gt;Harold B. Lee, “Loyalty,” address to religious educators, 8 July 1966; in ''Charge to Religious Educators'', 2nd ed. (Salt Lake City: Church Educational System and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, 1982), 65; cited in {{book:Horne:Determining Doctrine|pages=172-173}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Harold B. Lee:8 Jul 1966:se o Senhor queria que soubéssemos onde estava, ou onde Zaraenla era, ele teria nos dado latitude e longitude, você não acha?]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:John A. Widtsoe:Jul 1950:under the Prophet&#039;s editorship Central America was denominated the region of Book of Mormon activities to [[John A. Widtsoe (Jul 1950): &quot;under the Prophet&#039;s editorship Central America was de...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==John A. Widtsoe (Jul 1950): &quot;under the Prophet's editorship Central America was denominated the region of Book of Mormon activities&quot;==<br /> John A. Widtsoe (Council of the Twelve)<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> As far as can be learned, the Prophet Joseph Smith, translator of the book, did not say where, on the American continent, Book of Mormon activities occurred. Perhaps he did not know…. [The 1842 Times and Seasons article] seems to place many book of Mormon activities in that region. The interesting fact in this connection is that the Prophet Joseph Smith at this time was editor of the Times and Seasons, and had announced his full editorial responsibility for the paper. This seems to give the subjoined article an authority it might not otherwise possess….<br /> <br /> They who work on the geography of the Book of Mormon have little else than the preceding approaches with which to work, viz [that is]: that Nephites found their way into what is now the state of Illinois; that the plates of the Book of Mormon were found in a hill in northwestern New York State; that a statement exists of doubtful authenticity that Lehi and his party landed on the shore of the land now known as Chile; and that under the Prophet's editorship Central America was denominated the region of Book of Mormon activities. <br /> <br /> Out of diligent, prayerful study, we may be led to a better understanding of times and places in the history of the people who move across the pages of the divinely given Book of Mormon.&lt;ref&gt;{{IE1|author=John A. Widtsoe|article=Evidences and Reconciliations: Is Book of Mormon Geography Known?|vol=53|date=July 1950|start=547}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> …out of the studies of faithful Latter-day Saints may yet come a unity of opinion concerning Book of Mormon geography.&lt;ref&gt;John A. Widtsoe, foreword to Thomas Stuart Ferguson's ''Cumorah—Where?'' (Oakland: Published by the author, 1947), cited by {{MormonsMap|start=7|end=8}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!-- PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:John A. Widtsoe:Jul 1950:sob a direção do Profeta América Central foi denominada região do Livro de Mórmon atividades]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Dallin H. Oaks:29 Oct 1993:the Book of Mormon is not a history of all of the people who have lived on the continents of North and South America to [[Dallin H. Oaks (29 Oct 1993): &quot;the Book of Mormon is not a history...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Dallin H. Oaks (29 Oct 1993): &quot;the Book of Mormon is not a history of all of the people who have lived on the continents of North and South America&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> Here [BYU, 1950s] I was introduced to the idea that the Book of Mormon is not a history of all of the people who have lived on the continents of North and South America in all ages of the earth. Up to that time, I had assumed that it was. If that were the claim of the Book of Mormon, any piece of historical, archaeological, or linguistic evidence to the contrary would weigh in against the Book of Mormon, and those who rely exclusively on scholarship would have a promising position to argue. <br /> <br /> In contrast, if the Book of Mormon only purports to be an account of a few peoples who inhabited a portion of the Americas during a few millennia in the past, the burden of argument changes drastically. It is no longer a question of all versus none; it is a question of some versus none. In other words, in the circumstance I describe, the opponents of historicity [i.e. those who argue that the Book of Mormon is not a literally true record, as it claims] must prove that the Book of Mormon has no historical validity for any peoples who lived in the Americas in a particular time frame, a notoriously difficult exercise. You do not prevail on that proposition by proving that a particular Eskimo culture represents migrations from Asia. The opponents of the historicity of the Book of Mormon must prove that the people whose religious life it records did not live anywhere in the Americas.&lt;ref&gt;Dallin H. Oaks, &quot;Historicity of the Book of Mormon,&quot; Foundation for Ancient Research and Mormon Studies Annual Dinner Provo, Utah, 29 October 1993; cited in Dallin H. Oaks, &quot;The Historicity of the Book of Mormon,&quot; (Provo, Utah: FARMS, 1994): 2&amp;ndash;3.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Dallin H. Oaks:29 Oct 1993:o Livro de Mórmon não é uma história de todas as pessoas que viveram nos continentes da América do Norte e América do Sul]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Mark E. Peterson:1982:Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography to [[Mark E. Peterson (1982): &quot;Now, a Ge...</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[Mark E. Peterson (1982): &quot;Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography&quot;]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Mark E. Peterson:1982:Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography to [[Mark E. Peterson (1982): &quot;Now, a Ge...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Mark E. Peterson (1982): &quot;Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> …we all have our free agency. God doesn’t rob anyone of that. And sometimes even a General Authority has used his agency in a wrong direction…Now, a General Authority might speculate, I suppose. We have had speculation, for instance, on the part of some with respect to Book of Mormon geography, and it is plain, unadulterated speculation and not doctrine. And if a General Authority has speculated on Book of Mormon geography he did not represent the view of the Church while doing so.&lt;ref&gt;Mark E. Petersen, “Revelation,” address to religious educators, 24 August 1954; cited in ''Charge to Religious Educators'', 2nd ed., (Salt Lake City: Church Educational System and the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter-day Saints, 1982), 136&amp;ndash;137; cited in {{Book:Horne:Determining Doctrine|pages=315}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Mark E. Peterson:1982:Agora, uma Autoridade Geral Pode-se especular, eu suponho. Nós tivemos especulação, por exemplo, por parte de alguns em relação ao Livro de Mórmon geografia]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Harold B. Lee:11 Nov 1959:it seems all are in agreement that the followers of Lehi came to the western shores of South America to [[Harold B. Lee (11 Nov 1959) &quot;it seems all are in agreement that the followers of Le...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Harold B. Lee (11 Nov 1959) &quot;it seems all are in agreement that the followers of Lehi came to the western shores of South America&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> ...from the writings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, and of other inspired men, it seems all are in agreement that the followers of Lehi came to the western shores of South America....I believe we are (today) not far from the place where the history of the people of Lehi commenced in western America.&lt;ref&gt;Harold B. Lee, Quarterly Historical Report for the Andes Mission, 11 November 1959. Cited in Sorenson, ''Sourcebook'', 390.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Harold B. Lee:11 Nov 1959:Parece que todos estão de acordo que os seguidores de Lehi veio para a costa ocidental da América do Sul]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Lowell T. Bennion:1955:The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere to [[Lowell T. Bennion (Sunday School - 1955): &quot;The Book of Mormon itself does...</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[Lowell T. Bennion (Sunday School - 1955): &quot;The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere&quot;]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Lowell T. Bennion:1955:The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere to [[Lowell T. Bennion (Sunday School - 1955): &quot;The Book of Mormon itself does...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Lowell T. Bennion (Sunday School - 1955): &quot;The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> “The Book of Mormon itself does not purport to be a history of all pre-Columbian peoples in the Western Hemisphere. It simply tells briefly the story of these three peoples who came to this Continent. Its story ends in 421 A.D. What may have happened elsewhere on the American Continent before, during, or after the Nephite record was written (600 B.C. - 421 A.D.), we have no way of knowing.”&lt;ref&gt;Lowell L. Bennion, ''An Introduction to the Gospel: For the Sunday Schools of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'' (The Deseret Sunday School Union Board, 1955), 113&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Lowell T. Bennion:1955:O Livro de Mórmon não pretende ser uma história de todos os povos pré-colombianos no Hemisfério Ocidental]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Ezra Taft Benson:Apr 1955:the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America to Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1955): &quot;the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1955): &quot;the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America&quot;]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:Ezra Taft Benson:Apr 1955:the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America to Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1955): &quot;the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America&quot;</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==Ezra Taft Benson (Apr 1955): &quot;the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> I found they [those in 11 Latin American nations he had visited] liked to be referred to as Americans.... I found they were happy to learn that to the Latter-day Saints the Promised Land, the land of Zion, includes all of North and South America.&lt;ref&gt;{{CR1|author=Ezra Taft Benson|Date=April 1955|pages=48}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:Ezra Taft Benson:Apr 1955:a terra prometida, a terra de Sião, inclui todos do Norte e América do Sul]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:David O. McKay:1843:and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago to [[David O. McKay (1843): &quot;and this inclu...</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[David O. McKay (1843): &quot;and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago&quot;]]</div>

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<p>RogerNicholson: RogerNicholson moved page Source:David O. McKay:1843:and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago to [[David O. McKay (1843): &quot;and this inclu...</p> <hr /> <div>{{FairMormon}}<br /> &lt;onlyinclude&gt;<br /> ==David O. McKay (1843): &quot;and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago&quot;==<br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> America, and this includes Canada and the southern republics, was a choice land when the Jaredites left the land of Shinar approximately four thousand years ago. So it was fourteen hundred years later when Lehi and his colony formed the nucleus of a nation, prospered on the bounty of the country, and after a thousand years perished because of transgression. America was a great land when the stately Indian chiefs ruled their tribes, which thrived from the Bering Sea in the north to the Panama and towering Andes in the South.&lt;ref&gt;{{CR1|author=David O. McKay|date=April 1843|pages=17-18}}&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt;<br /> &lt;/onlyinclude&gt;<br /> {{endnotes sources}}<br /> <br /> &lt;!--PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE --&gt;<br /> <br /> [[pt:Fonte:David O. McKay:1843:e isso inclui o Canadá e as repúblicas do sul, era uma terra escolhida quando os jareditas deixaram a terra de Sinar, cerca de quatro mil anos atrás]]</div>

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